Mini-build: mounting the SHAD 3P system/SH23 cases - Ducati Supersport 939 Forum
 27Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-11-2019, 03:39 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Dino de Laurentiis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Sweden
Posts: 374
Likes Received: 317
Mini-build: mounting the SHAD 3P system/SH23 cases

Iím not particularly happy about the available options for side cases for the 939. Either theyíre not very practical like the semi soft Ducati branded ones which are neither water proof or with integrated locks or theyíre too small and not very fitting to the bikeís lines, like the hard plastic SW Motech ones or look too big on the bike like semi rigid ones from SHAD. Had the Ducati panniers been hard cases and fully waterproof, I probably wouldíve gone for those but alas theyíre not.

SHAD has a system for hard cases called 3P, where cases mount with just three attachment points (hence the name). Theyíve got a few different cases in various sizes for the system, from the smallest SH23 (2x23 liters) to the largest SH36 (2x36 liters). The SH23 looks like the right size for the 939 but unfortunately there are no 3P brackets for our bikes.
Side Cases - Shad - Engineered for riding

That said, the bracket is incredibly simple, itís basically just a piece of bent tube with two attachment points to the bike, so decided to order the SH23 cases and make the brackets myself.

I got the cases yesterday, will detail the work to get them attached to the SS in this thread.
Ed K, NothingClever and SBS like this.

2017 Ducati SuperSport S
2003 CCM R30 (project build)
Dino de Laurentiis is online now  
post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-11-2019, 03:43 PM
Super Moderator
 
Ed K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: America
Posts: 4,268
Likes Received: 2020
@dino-de-laurentiis

Thanks for keeping us posted...looking forward to your updates on this.

2017 Ducati SuperSport S
2015 Ducati Scrambler
Ed K is online now  
post #3 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-11-2019, 04:04 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Dino de Laurentiis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Sweden
Posts: 374
Likes Received: 317
First, a little bit about the SH23 cases themselves. Price is very low, I paid 1600 SEK shipped (just a bit over 150 euro). There are also optional top covers that snaps on to the lid of case, none in Ducati fast red though. I didnít order those because I wasnít sure if the base material would be paintable. Turns out itís some kind of polypropylene so probably wonít work too well painted so likely Iíll get the covers and have them painted in proper Ducati red. Plastic seems durable enough but scuffs easily. What makes them a bit different from most side cases is that they open from the top. Not sure if this is good or bad, maybe itís just different.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	57E098D5-F368-4E25-B3D6-4F0026703ABF.jpg
Views:	94
Size:	132.5 KB
ID:	36652   Click image for larger version

Name:	AC97942D-14C7-468B-B552-9E57A90CA808.jpg
Views:	96
Size:	106.8 KB
ID:	36654  
NothingClever and Dox like this.

2017 Ducati SuperSport S
2003 CCM R30 (project build)
Dino de Laurentiis is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-11-2019, 04:09 PM
SBS
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 114
Likes Received: 44
now comes the interesting part.....
SBS is offline  
post #5 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-11-2019, 04:23 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Dino de Laurentiis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Sweden
Posts: 374
Likes Received: 317
I only got so far today and the material I had on hand is way heavier than necessary. Like, the 20 mm steel tubing in the actual SHAD bracket is probably only 1,0 mm thick whereas what Iíve used is 2,5 mm thick. I also only have 3 mm thick flat bar. A U profile could probably be as thin as 0,8 mm and still be stronger. Right now Iím mostly just mocking things up.

I should note that the SH23 cases are a bit better for the DIYer since they come with an special end cap/locking tab for the bracket which is replaces whatís on there on the stock bracket. Otherwise, to get that plastic locking tab, one needs to buy the entire set of brackets for another bike and modify it to fit the SS. I didnít know this beforehand so lucky break there.

This is where Iím at right now. I have the steel tube cut to approximate size, and Iíve started sizing up one side of the footpeg attachments. As for the cross bar between both side brackets and which attach to the underside of the tail, Iím attempting to mirror the attachment points of the Ducati panniers. Assuming itís the two shiny bolts pictured which also hold the license plate mount?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	F7188051-7B1B-4A97-AE7F-70D8A0A7E0B6.jpg
Views:	90
Size:	126.9 KB
ID:	36656   Click image for larger version

Name:	F9C1F180-BFC2-4E1E-8DBD-0D2D1D83CAA6.jpg
Views:	108
Size:	171.4 KB
ID:	36658   Click image for larger version

Name:	2B9648EB-929F-4C1F-9ACC-7961A1E5DF3A.jpg
Views:	103
Size:	144.5 KB
ID:	36660  
Ed K likes this.

2017 Ducati SuperSport S
2003 CCM R30 (project build)
Dino de Laurentiis is online now  
post #6 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-13-2019, 12:18 PM
Super Moderator
 
Ed K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: America
Posts: 4,268
Likes Received: 2020
Yes, those shiny bolts are the main support points for the Ducati Panniers frame. However, different hardware is used.

2017 Ducati SuperSport S
2015 Ducati Scrambler
Ed K is online now  
post #7 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-13-2019, 01:13 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Dino de Laurentiis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Sweden
Posts: 374
Likes Received: 317
So, got a bit further. Only tacked together so far, only one side and it feels a bit less rigid in some directions than what I like but it’s a start. I’ve made it so that it’s usable also with a passenger (or should be anyways), might be a bit more rearward than the Ducati panniers.

-edit- looking at it now, feels like they should be more horizontal, no?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1B17C004-BDB8-430A-9D0E-79B31A4F01F0.jpg
Views:	112
Size:	192.6 KB
ID:	36694   Click image for larger version

Name:	168DFB0F-1E68-4E55-9BB3-3C8B2E4C3856.jpg
Views:	116
Size:	211.9 KB
ID:	36696   Click image for larger version

Name:	7EE2DC50-7D8A-443A-BCB2-8B309EB6AEA8.jpg
Views:	101
Size:	176.5 KB
ID:	36698  
Ed K, Madininian and NothingClever like this.

2017 Ducati SuperSport S
2003 CCM R30 (project build)
Dino de Laurentiis is online now  
post #8 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-13-2019, 08:40 PM
Super Moderator
 
Ed K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: America
Posts: 4,268
Likes Received: 2020
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dino de Laurentiis View Post
So, got a bit further. Only tacked together so far, only one side and it feels a bit less rigid in some directions than what I like but itís a start. Iíve made it so that itís usable also with a passenger (or should be anyways), might be a bit more rearward than the Ducati panniers.

-edit- looking at it now, feels like they should be more horizontal, no?
Looking great! Itís perhaps a bit further rearward than the OEMs, but no issue, really. Maybe a just a tad more horizontal, but not a biggie. Nice work-in-progress!

2017 Ducati SuperSport S
2015 Ducati Scrambler
Ed K is online now  
post #9 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-14-2019, 12:33 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Dino de Laurentiis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Sweden
Posts: 374
Likes Received: 317
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed K View Post
Looking great! Itís perhaps a bit further rearward than the OEMs, but no issue, really. Maybe a just a tad more horizontal, but not a biggie. Nice work-in-progress!
Itís more rearwards than the OEMs on purpose, as I read somewhere that they interfere slightly with the pillion foot position. I did try it out with a mate and the way it is now gives reasonable amounts of pillion foot space. If it works for a male sized leg and foot, it should be plenty spacious for a woman.
Ed K likes this.

2017 Ducati SuperSport S
2003 CCM R30 (project build)
Dino de Laurentiis is online now  
post #10 of 22 (permalink) Old 06-02-2019, 12:45 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Dino de Laurentiis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Sweden
Posts: 374
Likes Received: 317
Progress with this build has been a bit slow, been busy riding instead. Also decided to start over since my initial idea wasn’t going to be stable enough, and the steel pipe I had used was also unnecessarily thick (2,5 mm). Ordered some 1,5 mm pipe instead, zinc plated too, and put this contraption together. Just tacked for now, and the two forward brackets are just slightly off, despite measuring everything thrice. The things that happens when welding things off the bike, hard to maintain the exact angles etc.

It is quite wide at 520 mm, but that’s to clear the massive stock indicators. On the positive side indicators are still visible from a 45 deg rearward angle. I think the Ducati panniers sit quite a bit closer to the bike, no?

Still quite satisfied with how it’s turned out so far. Especially for the price compared to the OEM panniers. Have a couple of covers for the lids that I’ll have painted in (fast) red matching the bike. Think it’ll turn out quite good.

A couple of whoopsies on the way, big one being the forward cross brace which I had mounted lower down at first. Didn’t realise that meant it was sitting only 6-7 cm (2,5”) above the rear wheel like that. Put it further up and had a mate jump on the saddle to compress the suspension and seems like I’ve got some margin now.

Complete weight for the frame is 1,3 kg. The cases are 2 kg each.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	54054EB8-929D-45C9-9736-8D85972A1F61.jpg
Views:	77
Size:	184.1 KB
ID:	37520   Click image for larger version

Name:	80F3F080-39AA-4A1B-8287-198756CE916E.jpg
Views:	70
Size:	212.8 KB
ID:	37522   Click image for larger version

Name:	D5B8D63D-4110-4C37-B69A-4F16DCDC97F2.jpg
Views:	68
Size:	218.0 KB
ID:	37524   Click image for larger version

Name:	B6E49E94-6A5D-46D1-8987-64C4BE49B6A2.jpg
Views:	67
Size:	166.4 KB
ID:	37526   Click image for larger version

Name:	FEA260E2-A927-4FAC-8F14-E1A37136B5FE.jpg
Views:	67
Size:	193.9 KB
ID:	37528  

Click image for larger version

Name:	180969B2-ED9E-48D6-91D1-C1EF12FE39B4.jpg
Views:	64
Size:	201.5 KB
ID:	37530   Click image for larger version

Name:	FA8040FD-EFAD-48CB-AFB3-CB3692F3938B.jpg
Views:	60
Size:	210.1 KB
ID:	37532   Click image for larger version

Name:	B1BCD415-790A-45E5-AFEA-67367FAF8428.jpg
Views:	60
Size:	160.8 KB
ID:	37534  

2017 Ducati SuperSport S
2003 CCM R30 (project build)
Dino de Laurentiis is online now  
Reply

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome