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2022 Supersport 950 S Exhaust Options

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#1 ·
I recently bought a 2022 Supersport 950 S, and, despite promising myself I wouldn't spend a fortune adding bits and pieces that I won't recoup when I sell it, I've already added a tail tidy and windshield, and now fancy doing something with the exhaust.

I like the pops on the overrun that the stock exhaust gives, but would prefer it to look at bit better, and the pipes to be a little louder (maybe removeable dB killers?) - I understand the Akra slip-on doesn't really add much to the sound.

Obviously, it needs to be road legal here in the UK, and, if possible, I'd rather it not: i) require a tune/flash; and, ii) be too expensive. So I guess I'm looking at a slip-on, which is fine as I'm not really looking to improve performance.

I was wondering what my options are, please?

Thanks in advance for any advice.
 
#2 ·
I was in a similar situation. Ended up not touching the exhaust because 1) slip-on options are almost purely cosmetic, and 2) full systems that do make a difference are illegal where I live. For the full system (illegal) I was told I can probably ride without worries - but I’d need to install the original exhaust back for every inspection (every other year).These limitations, plus the hassle and cost, made me decide to stick with the stock exhaust at least for now.

That said, if I ever change my mind, I’ll probably get the Termignoni full system (decat).

I hope this won’t discourage you!

Have fun customising your bike ;)
 
#3 ·
The design of the exhaust doesn’t lend itself to a “slip on” in the traditional sense so most exhausts are sold as complete but replace about 3/4 of the system. The catalytic converters is where most of the sound deadening and restriction comes in so that’s what you’re trying to get out. Probably the best, most sought after, and most expensive, is the high mount, full Akrapovic Ducati branded pipe but they are on an extended back order at the moment.

The cheapest is Delkavic but the adage is you get what you pay for and they look great out of the box and last OK but they are a step down from the big brands in quality. If you’re going to spend $15k on a bike I don’t get putting a $300 exhaust on it but that’s me. Your best bang for the buck is the Termi Scream system but it is definitely louder than stock, even with the baffle in, but again, the best bang for your buck and a good sound and not overly loud.

From there you have a number of other options, QD is a popular one, Competition Werkes as well as a few more seem to be bought a lot for the 939.

There’s a lot of talk that replacing the tips of the stock pipe with the Akra (or QD) tips adds nothing to the sound but I disagree. There not much change, not in the typical sense of a straight through race pipe, but to my ears the Akra tips provide the perfect “sound” balance of engine, road and outside noise when you’re riding. They are expensive for what you get so look for them used.
 
#5 ·
As others have said, a slip on is purely for aesthetics and adds no power gains. I put the SC Projects on mine purely for looks. That said, the pop and burble on the overrun is still there but not as loud or as frequent as with the standard exhaust. If its looks you are after, what about fitting the Ilmberger carbon fibre end can sleeves onto the standard exhaust?

I contacted Delkevic about a full system for the 950 and they said they had no plans to make one.
 

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If its looks you are after, what about fitting the Ilmberger carbon fibre end can sleeves onto the standard exhaust?
I wasn't aware of these, but the kit looks good.

I have the standard Ducati CF hugger, swingarm and chain gaurd whcih is all matt. Does anyone know whether this kit is a perfect match for the matt carbon OEM parts ? I don't need more performance, but I do like the CF end cans.
 
#6 ·
Personally, I see the real advantage with an aftermarket exhaust is getting rid of the heavy and hot catalytic converter. The sound and styling are subjective but I like the factory stuff as much as the others. I've seen/heard the Delkavic, Termi and Shotgun, they sound louder and the biggest difference is styling. Actually the cheaper Delkavic has great looking stainless down pipes with a choice of half a dozen generic muffler cans.

One thing that you might consider is to purchase take off factory parts on eBay and modify them. The covers can be painted and I wonder if the mufflers themselves can be drilled out? I have a pair of both in the garage but haven't decided what to do with them. If you mod'd a second set you could easily change it back to stock just by replacing the muffler or covers.
 
#7 · (Edited)
Many thanks to everyone who's replied - some good ideas.

Meantime, I've found something:


Has a removeable dB killer so should be louder than stock, not too expensive, doesn't require any mapping/retuned etc., and looks decent (to my eyes, at least).

Any thoughts?

Is the lack of homologation an issue? ETA: On the last point, I can't see it being a problem insofar as falling foul off the law, as long as I put the dB killer in when the MOT comes around. BUT I am a bit worried that, even though its a cosmetic change (i.e. no change in performance) the fact it's not homologated might give the insurance company a chance to wriggle out of paying up.
 
#8 ·
@BedsClanger I have always declared my slip on exhausts to my Insurance companies, but have never declared or been asked the make of them or whether they are homologated.

A slip on (depending on make and what bike it is fitted to) will only give a few HP improvement compared to a full exhaust. The vast majority of slip on's provide no increase in HP whatsoever.

I had a bad off on my GSXR 600 a few years back and had an Akrapovic Megaphone end can which when the baffle was removed was just a titanium tube. The Insurers didn't ask any questions and paid up to replace it along with the other damage to the bike.

Bottom line is speak to your Insurers BEFORE you buy and fit the exhaust to see what they say.
 
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@BedsClanger I have always declared my slip on exhausts to my Insurance companies, but have never declared or been asked the make of them or whether they are homologated.

A slip on (depending on make and what bike it is fitted to) will only give a few HP improvement compared to a full exhaust. The vast majority of slip on's provide no increase in HP whatsoever.

I had a bad off on my GSXR 600 a few years back and had an Akrapovic Megaphone end can which when the baffle was removed was just a titanium tube. The Insurers didn't ask any questions and paid up to replace it along with the other damage to the bike.

Bottom line is speak to your Insurers BEFORE you buy and fit the exhaust to see what they say.
Thanks. I spoke to my insurer, who fudged the issue a bit, saying I can modify the exhaust (with a differnt uplift in premium if it's consmetic or performance enhancing), but that any modifications mustbe consistent with the general policy terms and conditions. When I checked the document, there's stuff in there about the bike being kept roadworthy and beiing ridden legally. So I guess that, arguably, since these aren't homologated, they could fall foul of such provisions. I think it's a long shot, and that I'd probably be fine, but I wouldn't put it past an insurer to try, and I'm not sure I want to risk. So, it looks like I'm back to the drawing board, since I don't fancy paying nearly a grand for the Akra cans that most people say don't really improve sound (or performance, though that's less of a concern); whilst they do look a bit nicer, I think I could get that from the Ilmberger carbon for a fraction of the cost.
 
#11 ·
I’ve also been looking into exhaust options for my 950… from what I have seen the exhausts are slightly different from 939 to 950 and require modification to make them work. I know SC Project said theirs doesn’t fit the 950. I’m guessing we will have to wait a while until companies put out options. Maybe there will be better ones coming??
 
#12 ·
I hear you! I never changed a thing on my previous bikes. I bought the SSS in Jan and I already changed:
  • Folding Clutch and Brake Lever set
  • Clutch and brake levers with foldable pegs
  • Radiator guard and oil cooler
  • Bar end sliders
  • Front spindle sliders (also back but they didn’t fit and in the middle of a drama with R&G)
  • Tail tidy
Am also looking into the exhaust mainly for sound reasons. I would like a little bit more roar (I want the sound of a lioness and not of a cat. Now it sounds like a cat). In Abu Dhabi unlike Dubai The ducati dealer explained to me a few things and another brand he recommended SG project. Season here is almost over so I have enough time to do some research. Good luck. Keep us posted
 
#13 · (Edited)
I heard that you can't change the rear wheel without unbolting the standard exhaust - is that true? And if so, are there any aftermarket exhausts where you don't have to while still being compatible with the panniers?
I really like the looks of the high Akra-exhaust, which is sadly race-use only. QD has something that mimics this design (but only for the 939 so far), but I recon they won't work with the panniers.
 
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....... I heard that you can't change the rear wheel without unbolting the standard exhaust - is that true? .......
Yes, you have to remove both of the end cans of the standard exhaust to remove the rear wheel. The 950 Owners Manual doesn't explain how to do this, but the 939 manual does. You can download the 939 Owners Manual from the Ducati website.
 
#14 · (Edited)
I emailed QD about their 3/4 set up similar to the Akrapovic and this is what they said.

Hello,
Yes you can fit the exhaust system on Supersport 950 but there isn’t yet homologation euro 5.
Best regards

So 939 and 950 interchangeable it appear but I’ve seen people on here and YouTube state they had to cut/modify to make exhausts fit for the 939 onto their 950. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
#16 ·
Bit stupid, imo. Partially contradicts the benefit of having a single sided swingarm.
 
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I tried just removing just the bottom muffler when I had my 939 but was worried about scratching the paint work on the wheel rim.

@Invincible The video below shows the wheel removal; it's the same for the 950 as it is for the 939.

The only issue with his video is he didn't use the right size socket :cautious:

 
#27 ·
It’s unfortunate to spend that money and pain of installing to not like it. I was debating the Termi but not a fan of the angle. I’ve had Termis on other bikes though and loved the sound which was deep. CW angle is nice but not sure on sound. Akra slip on looks nice but $1000 for same sound is hard to justify. Can’t decide on which exhaust to go with… ugh. Hopefully the Termi grows on you and start to enjoy it.
 
#29 ·
The pops and bubbles on the overrun are just the air injection system which gets rid of unburnt fuel in the exhaust gases.

Back in the days when we had proper motorbikes (takes cover!), all that popping on the overrun meant was that you had a leaky header.

It's now been promoted as a "feature". Really?

Still irritates the f*ck outta me.....
 
#34 ·
My old KTM 950 was carbed and had a lovely pop on overrun... missed that on the sewing machine like 1290 KTM. Yes it was 150 hp but it was a bit sanitised... love all that on the SS especially on hard engine braking into a corner

Had a loaner bike today - monster 959 - with the same engine as ours. Fitted with a Termi system and that sounded great.
 
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@dwcook392 Although I haven’t done it, at least several Members have loaded the maps at home without the dealer and posted about it. (It can also be put back to the stock map, as I recall, if at some point that is needed.)

FYI, I also understand that without baffles, it is kinda loud…so all depends on various personal preferences weighed against power needs, type of riding, neighborhood, etc.
 
#42 ·
Hello!
I have a few questions on this topic which I haven’t managed to really understand from google 😆 Probably my question is basic for many of you

So: I am looking into enhancing the sound of the SS because a few nice bubbling sounds aside, the bike sounds like my grandma’s old moulinex 😬

So, I gather that the source of this sound (and performance) is connected to the exhaust (which is the whole system made of pipes AND cylinder or more specifically parts within the exhaust (the cylinder)

What confuses me is that sometimes you guys talk about the exhaust in general and their different brands, but sometimes you talk about sleeves and baffles (which I presume is the same thing as a muffler?)

So my question:

To increase the (ego driven 😎) sound, when do we consider changing the WHOLE exhaust and when do we look into adding a sleeve (which some of you said it is just esthetics) or changing the muffler alone?

If you have any links that can help me understand I would be grateful. Our season is almost over so I have plenty of time to understand this and make the right modification. Abu Dhabi unlike Dubai is VERY strict about modifications but I guess that if the enhancement in sound is not dramatic I can get away with it (perks of being a woman in the Middle East)

thank you🙏🏻
 
#43 · (Edited)
An exhaust system is basically a pipe (aka downpipe) connected to the outlet (exhaust valve) side of the cylinder head.

Usually, there is a muffler, a box of continuous piping going backwards and forwards. The piping in the muffler is full of holes and the muffler box is stuffed full of non-flammable sound-insulating material. The muffler is designed to prevent sparks from leaving the exhaust system and make the exhaust quieter.

Usually, the downpipes in a multicylinder bike are joined. The length of the pipe before the join has an influence on sound and power. The exhaust might also branch out after the muffler. So, a 4 cylinder bike with The pipes joining together and dual exhaust outlets is a 4 into 1 into 2. Joining pipes together helps 'scavenge' exhaust gasses. The join acts as a venturi, saving engine horsepower to push the gas out. When this approach is used the length to the join is important, as it changes, it changes where the exhaust is most efficient and contributes to horsepower gains.

Where things get complicated is modern vehicles, including motorcycles, have catalytic convertors (cats) to help turn toxic emissions into less toxic substances. A catalyst is a form of chemical reaction. Catalytic converters are usually large, heavy, and ugly. Some bikes, including the supersport, combine the muffler and catalytic convertor. On the supersport it's hanging under the motor. The two outlet pipes (cans or as you call sleeves) have some form of muffling characteristics, but there are minimal at best. That's why there is little difference in changing the outlets for aftermarket items. They are similar to the straight-through mufflers we used to call hotdogs when we were modifying cars, but they need to be as long as possible to bring the noise down to an acceptable level. It must be said, however, this style of muffler produces a deeper sound. They are sometimes called a resonator if they are used after a muffler in an exhaust system.

If you want to make a real difference to sound, the muffler/ catalytic convertor has to go, it's where most of the noise is lost. You are then left with a straight-through system that is loud. Straight through mufflers can be added to the system, but due to the fact they are short they are not overly effective at reducing noise.

That's where a baffle comes in. It is designed to quieten the exhaust. A crude form of baffle would be to pack the muffler with steel wool, but it results in a loss of power due to being overly restrictive and would soon oxidise.

In general, the speed of the exhaust gases contributes to the noise the system makes. Exhaust systems try to slow the gas flow down by letting it expand into larger areas or by disrupting the flow.

The cheapest way to make the supersport sound better is to remove the servo that operates a mechanical baffle (valve) in the exhaust system and leave the baffle in the open position. You need an 'exhaust healer', an electronic device costing about 80 bucks to fool the ECU into thinking the exhaust valve is working. If not, you get a check engine warning light. This mechanical baffle or valve reroutes exhausts through more muffling under certain circumstances and is used to help pass emission's standards including noise. If you accelerate gently you should hear it opening at about 3,000 RPM (might be different for the Euro 5 compliant 950) and the exhaust note changing.

The next cheapest way is to remove the catalytic convertor and 2 exhaust outlets and replace them with another muffler. This is the approach used by Competition Werks and Delkivic. You can run this style with or without baffles, but anecdotal evidence suggests the baffles are a must. A local bike exhaust specialist might be able to make a custom system along these lines for you. Sometimes these are just advertised as a muffler and the installer needs to make pipes to replace the catalytic convertor and connect the muffler to the downpipes.

The last, and most expensive, approach is the full Akrapovic system. This system has been designed for the bike and will have the greatest performance benefits. Again, the choice of baffles or no baffles.

If you go down the paths that remove the catalytic convertor it is more than likely it will upset the engine management system (in the old days we had to reject the carbies to get the bike to run smooth and get performance gains). This is where an upmap comes in. It changes the ECU so it matches the exhaust.

One thing to consider is a loud exhaust can be fatiguing on long runs at constant revs. A loud exhaust and induction roar is alright playing in the twisties but not as nice commuting or touring.

Hope this helps.
 
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One thing to consider is a loud exhaust can be fatiguing on long runs at constant revs. A loud exhaust and induction roar is alright playing in the twisties but not as nice commuting or touring
This is why I would like to have a quieter exhaust and also an option to turn off the bubbling on overrun at low revs. I love the twisties, but usually my shorter trips are at least 60 miles. And at some point it becomes annoying when you just want to pass through a small village to get to the next twisty bits, and the exhaust starts banging while you're driving through a narrow street where everything is amplified by the echoes from the buildings.
The 950 does close a valve at 50 - 54 kph in third gear, but ever tried to maintain that speed on anything other than a flat, straight street? Also, many of those narrow villages have a 30 kph speed limit, which is barely drivable in second gear, let alone in third.
 
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