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I'm hoping to follow Mike at OC this weekend. The Supersport has been confirmed for Melbourne motor show Nov 25-27. I'll post some photos/videos afterwards. Let me know if you guys need anything specific.
 

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Also would like to include the American shows that will happen just so we have more eyeballs out there looking out for the 939.

NEW YORK
12.09.16 - 12.11.16

WASHINGTON D.C.
01.06.17 - 01.08.17

DALLAS, TX
01.13.17 - 01.15.17

CLEVELAND, OH
01.27.17 - 01.29.17

MINNEAPOLIS, MN
02.03.17 - 02.05.17

CHICAGO, IL
02.10.17 - 02.12.17
 

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And I am not near any of them... Is anyone going to any of the shows? Closest is NY for me but that's a 10ish hour drive for the 939.
 

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As good as it was to see it in metal, the b*@#&%d's wouldn't let anyone sit on the bike!!
They also had only the S version on display.

So I've got nothing to add here, apart from Australian pricing (yet to be confirmed) AUD20000 for the standard version and AUD21790 for the S version.
 

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As good as it was to see it in metal, the b*@#&%d's wouldn't let anyone sit on the bike!!
They also had only the S version on display.

So I've got nothing to add here, apart from Australian pricing (yet to be confirmed) AUD20000 for the standard version and AUD21790 for the S version.
They are idiots, what else do they think people who are generally interested want to do, just look at it? I can do that in a photo. How does it goes on the road, well I'm never going to know from a road test around the suburban streets which is about all they allow where I live. However it performs I can adjust me or the bike to suit.

All I want to know is what is it like to sit on.

Thanks for the heads on the expected pricing. That's pretty much what I was expecting, perhaps the S version to be a little more of a gap. So at $1790 for the fully adjustable Ohlins to me that makes that decision a no brainer.
 

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They are idiots, what else do they think people who are generally interested want to do, just look at it? I can do that in a photo. How does it goes on the road, well I'm never going to know from a road test around the suburban streets which is about all they allow where I live. However it performs I can adjust me or the bike to suit.

All I want to know is what is it like to sit on.

Thanks for the heads on the expected pricing. That's pretty much what I was expecting, perhaps the S version to be a little more of a gap. So at $1790 for the fully adjustable Ohlins to me that makes that decision a no brainer.
Yes IF the difference is just $1790, it is a very straightforward decision. However, the guy who I spoke to was a bit of an idiot. He knew nothing about touring/sports packs.
 

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Yes IF the difference is just $1790, it is a very straightforward decision. However, the guy who I spoke to was a bit of an idiot. He knew nothing about touring/sports packs.
The S version has the quick shifter also included in any price difference. I'd also be going the sport pack for a bigger screen and bags if the price wasn't silly. If it was there is sure to be aftermarket options available pretty soon after it hits the streets.

Even if the bars are a tad aggressive bet someone comes out with an aftermarket product to raise them pretty quickly. Leg position, nothing can be be more compact than my current ride and I can ride it for 8 hours day after day.

I'm thinking of this decision something like hanging out with an 18 year old Italian good looking girl. Not a very rational decision, sure to be high maintenance, but still lots of fun. At least with a bike you can just lock it away and forget about it for a while wherever you want.
 

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Just make sure you don't get them off eBay from some no name brand making them in China since that's one of the last things we need to be made poorly. The wait for something from a reputable brand will be worth it. Just have to go through the grueling task of searching and keeping an eye out.
 

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So I've got nothing to add here, apart from Australian pricing (yet to be confirmed) AUD20000 for the standard version and AUD21790 for the S version.
Great news! The Australian website has the base Supersport starting from $17,990.00 and the S starting from $19,990.00. This is more inline with their US pricing compared to other models.

At this price, I can't imagine too many base versions selling. Also goes to show, the guy I spoke to at the show had no idea!!

I'm half tempted to put in a deposit without even test riding it - although I've made that mistake before:rolleyes:
 

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I'm personally waiting to test ride it first before dropping that deposit down. But holy moly with that price difference, who wouldn't go for the S ?
 

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What's it like to sit on? Its a more relaxed position than a sportsbike. I found it very similar to the BMW R1200RS for comfort.

More like a sports tourer not even as racy as a new VFR800
 

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I agree the price difference isnt much, but quick shifter is available as an add-on if reqd. As for the suspension, if the base model fits fine, Ohlins is more people using it for track days. Thats just my opinion though. I have a pre-deposit on the base. What are the major differences comparing the suspensions of the 2 models?
 

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What's it like to sit on? Its a more relaxed position than a sportsbike. I found it very similar to the BMW R1200RS for comfort.

More like a sports tourer not even as racy as a new VFR800
On the Motorcycle-ergonomics web site (for me at 6'2") an RS has a 16 degree forward lean. This is not that much different to a Ninja 1000 at 11, and a GSX-S1000F at 14, and Monster 821 at 15 degrees. So that sounds good as I find all those bikes to be a pretty comfortable position for all day riding, and it's where I reckon it needs to be.

The new Honda VFR800F is 24 degrees, and if it Ducati did make it similar, that would be way to aggressive for me, and they won't be getting my money.
 

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I agree the price difference isnt much, but quick shifter is available as an add-on if reqd. As for the suspension, if the base model fits fine, Ohlins is more people using it for track days. Thats just my opinion though. I have a pre-deposit on the base. What are the major differences comparing the suspensions of the 2 models?
The biggest difference is full adjustability on the Ohlins. Also 48mm forks on the S compared to 42mm on the base version. I wonder if the bigger diameter forks have less "flex" and are more suited to track than road?

It will be interesting to read a proper road test that compares the 2. I am a big fan of ohlins. Everytime I've replaced the stock ones with ohlins on my previous bikes, it has transformed the bike. The control and the ride quality they offer is just too good FOR ME to take a chance with Marzocchis.

Also, it is going to be very expensive to put on aftermarket ohlins later on. Not too fussed about the QS.
 

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Yep, im eager get to read a review as well. But as you mentioned as well, the add-ons seem more for track purposes. I dont see myself hitting the track, which is why im not sure an extra 2k is worth it. i do like the white matte and red wheels though. i wish the white model and some more streaks of red on it.
 

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I believe you might find the 43mm Marzocchi front forks will have rebound damping in only one leg (right), and compression damping in the other (left). This isn't uncommon on mid-price point suspensions today, but I doubt you'll find it on any top line performance bike. I can't see why its done for any other reason than keeping costs down.

http://www.marzocchimoto.com/en/products/adjustable-fork-usd43-usd45-usd50/

The rear Marzocchi shock has only rebound damping adjustment. Again, this isn't uncommon on mid-price bikes. However, no high performance bike would only have rebound damping. It would also have adjustable compression damping, and likely independent low and high speed compression damping adjustment.

Is all this adjustment necessary? Yes, if people take the time to understand and set up their bike. How many people do, my experience, not many. So if someone is a just ride it type and thinks suspension adjustment is something beyond them or only for experts, then perhaps they probably won't get any real benefit from the high spec suspension of the S model.
 

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I believe you might find the 43mm Marzocchi front forks will have rebound damping in only one leg (right), and compression damping in the other (left). This isn't uncommon on mid-price point suspensions today, but I doubt you'll find it on any top line performance bike. I can't see why its done for any other reason than keeping costs down.
Seems like Ohlins has also gone down this only compression damping in one leg and rebound damping damping in the other leg route.
 
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