[steeve]

To ease the pain of waiting, I keep searching the net.
Surprisingly the comments I've read about the Supersports appearance are so far all good, well better than good. I haven't found anything disparaging yet. There's been a few articles written about WHY? They seem to think the Panigale 959 is the better choice and cant understand who would want a Supersport.

But it's apparent universal visual appeal may make it a target for the light fingered lot.

I'd be interested to hear peoples thoughts on alarms and more importantly trackers.
I'm not an alarm fan but would consider a tracker. But not sure what's out there and their ongoing costs....:smile2:

 

[John]

There's been a few articles written about WHY? They seem to think the Panigale 959 is the better choice and cant understand who would want a Supersport.

But it's apparent universal visual appeal may make it a target for the light fingered lot.

hear peoples thoughts on alarms and more importantly trackers.

If someone needs to explain to the people writing the articles your reading that the overwhelming majority of riders in the world do NOT want a pure sports bike no matter how good it is, be it a Panigale, R1, or S1000RR etc.... well honestly I reckon they have to be totally clueless so I wouldn't take a scrape of notice of them.

Regarding alarms, at no time are any of my bikes left somewhere where they are likely to be stolen. I don't even insure them (other than for damage to the other vehicle if it was my fault). When I used to commute to work and leave the bike all day in a public car park I rode a little dual-sport that no one would want to steal. I simply wouldn't leave something like a new SS all day, everyday, in the same public carpark. Or even use it as a commuter bike where there is a risk of it getting stolen. That's just wearing it out. At home my good bikes are in the garage behind the house.

Have 2 bikes and just keep the SS for weekend riding where it's always virtually in sight. You can pick up a low mileage dual-sport for real cheap for just running around and commuting, and save on insurance and maintenance.

 

[steeve]

You're obviously not in the UK? Where you can come back from a visit to the loo (restroom) and find your pride and joy gone. Having it in a garage at the rear of your house is no guarantee your bikes are going to remain there. Even with an alarm on the garage and a big dog.

In fact there are more motorcycles stolen each year in the UK than are bought new!

Some interesting reading

Brazen thieves steal 10 motorbikes in targeted attack on Blackburn dealership (From Lancashire Telegraph)

2017 MCE Insurance British Superbike Championship in association with Pirelli

http://www.bmf.co.uk/news/show/motorcycle-theft-increases-by-44-in-london

http://www.asgardsss.co.uk/motorcycle-theft-statistics

 

[steeve]

You're obviously not in the UK? Where you can come back from a visit to the loo (restroom) and find your pride and joy gone. Having it in a garage at the rear of your house is no guarantee your bikes are going to remain there. Even with an alarm on the garage and a big dog.

In fact there are more motorcycles stolen each year in the UK than are bought new!

Some interesting reading

Brazen thieves steal 10 motorbikes in targeted attack on Blackburn dealership (From Lancashire Telegraph)

2017 MCE Insurance British Superbike Championship in association with Pirelli

Motorcycle theft increases by 44% in London » British Motorcyclists Federation

UK Motorcycle Theft Statistics Asgard

I also meant to add that over 80% are stolen from the owners homes. Average time to steal a bike? Twenty seconds! Sad isn't it?
But you don't have to let them beat you down, but now perhaps you can understand why I'm interested in a tracking device.

 

[John]

You're obviously not in the UK? Where you can come back from a visit to the loo (restroom) and find your pride and joy gone. Having it in a garage at the rear of your house is no guarantee your bikes are going to remain there. Even with an alarm on the garage and a big dog.

In fact there are more motorcycles stolen each year in the UK than are bought new!

Some interesting reading

Brazen thieves steal 10 motorbikes in targeted attack on Blackburn dealership (From Lancashire Telegraph)

2017 MCE Insurance British Superbike Championship in association with Pirelli

Motorcycle theft increases by 44% in London » British Motorcyclists Federation

UK Motorcycle Theft Statistics Asgard

And your 30 times more likely to be killed riding a motorcycle than driving a car ........ If you worry about 'statistics' you wouldn't even buy a motorcycle.

Where I live most riders will leave their helmet gloves etc just hanging on the bike in the street, keys often in the ignition, while they make short for lunch etc. during a ride. Never heard of a problem. Seen this same subject discussed on US forums. Most report no problem either doing exactly the same thing.

If I lived somewhere I had to worry about someone stealing my bikes out of my locked garage in the back yard, I'd move somewhere else. Seriously.

If I'm staying at a county pub overnight when on a trip away in somewhere I really don't have a feel for the 'neighborhood' and the bike has to be parked in a place the public can freely access, then I just slip on a disc lock.

 

[John]

Best theft deterrent IMO, a CEN 6 grade padlock locking the chain to the sprocket.

As pointed out in the following article ...... from a self confessed motorcycle thief, the notion of people loading motorcycles into trucks to steal them, these are the guys who end up in jail. In this day of CCTV and camera's everywhere could anyone make themselves more conspicuous. The thief's opinion was that a disk lock on the rear wheel was the most effective security measure. He also said high rise security garages (meaning deserted) are the equivalent of shopping mauls for thief's.

https://rideapart.com/articles/ask-a-motorcycle-thief

 

[steeve]

I don't worry about my bike being stolen. I don't worry about my car being stolen either and yet it's the most stolen model in the UK. They'll both be insured.

I live in a very quiet backwater, but would like to tour on my Supersport both in the UK and abroad and something like a tracker might be worth considering.

 

[Snyped]

I'm in a pretty quiet area, although a lot of people don't think it is. But I haven't heard of anyones bikes or cars getting stolen from where I am either so I'm not concerned one bit.

 

[John]

I'm in a pretty quiet area, although a lot of people don't think it is. But I haven't heard of anyone's bikes or cars getting stolen from where I am either so I'm not concerned one bit.

That's the bottom line I reckon, how risky is each individual situation. If you park it in on the street, same place every night in a questionable inner major city suburb, 100 meters down from the substance abuse clinic .... well just about expect it to be 'missing in action' one morning. Live in a quite safe suburb, and the bike is either being ridden or in a locked secure garage ..... very little probability of it getting stolen.

When I tour I generally stay at pubs that go out of their way to attract motorcyclists (being on quite great back roads) offering discounts and secure overnight parking. They know they'll make it up on food and drinks. Even if you have to park on the street they are generally quite country small towns that are pretty safe. There'll generally be other bikes there also so just make yours one of the more difficult with a quality alarm disk lock. A thief will go for the easiest.

 

[MasterMind]

Speaking on the topic about bike thieves and the UK, I coincidentally stumbled across this video posted yesterday. This guys a savage.

 

[steeve]

What a total total tosser...............