[edufox]

Hi everybody, Im a new user from Spain (sorry my bad english), I got a S model with little issues with DQS.
When upshifting things go smooth as silk but downshifting only works 10% of the time. The dash shows active DQS u/d as it works properly. The first downshiftings of the ride, aprox 6 times, are OK, smoth, correct blipping, amazing and addictive functioning... But thats it, only 6 or 8 times. Then the lever turns hard as if its no DQS, so I have to clutch manually when facing a turn thinking the DQS is gonna work: not funny when you are thinking you got a DQS working fine. Recently I found out that little throttle solve the problem and the downshift works ok and smooth but I think this is not the correct functioning of the system. When braking and lowering a gear it makes no sense having to open throttle to gear down.
Im thinking of adjusting the gear lever to see if is a sensor issue but the fact that DQS works with little thottle makes me think in the ECU maybe.
Anyone with the same or similar issue?

Thanks!

 

[Triple S]

Try downshifting only using the front brakes and see if you get a good result if that fixes it the engine may be rotating to fast for the rear wheel during heavy rear brake application.

 

[titus.sensei]

do you close completly the throttle before downshifting ? are you under 8,5k rpm ?

 

[amoslws]

Hi everybody, Im a new user from Spain (sorry my bad english), I got a S model with little issues with DQS.
When upshifting things go smooth as silk but downshifting only works 10% of the time. The dash shows active DQS u/d as it works properly. The first downshiftings of the ride, aprox 6 times, are OK, smoth, correct blipping, amazing and addictive functioning... But thats it, only 6 or 8 times. Then the lever turns hard as if its no DQS, so I have to clutch manually when facing a turn thinking the DQS is gonna work: not funny when you are thinking you got a DQS working fine. Recently I found out that little throttle solve the problem and the downshift works ok and smooth but I think this is not the correct functioning of the system. When braking and lowering a gear it makes no sense having to open throttle to gear down.
Im thinking of adjusting the gear lever to see if is a sensor issue but the fact that DQS works with little thottle makes me think in the ECU maybe.
Anyone with the same or similar issue?
Thanks!

You must have zero throttle when downshifting. That's what the owners manual states. The DQS cuts the fuel on upshift but you must cut it for downshift.

 

[edufox]

do you close completly the throttle before downshifting ? are you under 8,5k rpm ?

Yes, of course! Im under 2500 km, so never above ~5000 rpms.

 

[edufox]

Hi everybody, Im a new user from Spain (sorry my bad english), I got a S model with little issues with DQS.
When upshifting things go smooth as silk but downshifting only works 10% of the time. The dash shows active DQS u/d as it works properly. The first downshiftings of the ride, aprox 6 times, are OK, smoth, correct blipping, amazing and addictive functioning... But thats it, only 6 or 8 times. Then the lever turns hard as if its no DQS, so I have to clutch manually when facing a turn thinking the DQS is gonna work: not funny when you are thinking you got a DQS working fine. Recently I found out that little throttle solve the problem and the downshift works ok and smooth but I think this is not the correct functioning of the system. When braking and lowering a gear it makes no sense having to open throttle to gear down.
Im thinking of adjusting the gear lever to see if is a sensor issue but the fact that DQS works with little thottle makes me think in the ECU maybe.
Anyone with the same or similar issue?
Thanks!

You must have zero throttle when downshifting. That's what the owners manual states. The DQS cuts the fuel on upshift but you must cut it for downshift.

Yes, I know it. Downshifting always with closed throttle but I realized that little gas allows DQD to gear down... Im pretty sure that is not normal at all. But...with closed throttle there's no downshifting

 

[edufox]

Try downshifting only using the front brakes and see if you get a good result if that fixes it the engine may be rotating to fast for the rear wheel during heavy rear brake application.

Hum ok but I always shift up about at 4500 rpm and down at aprox the same or below rpms...
Thanks for the advice!

 

[Ed K]

Doesn't sound right, have it checked at the dealer.

 

[sids911]

How many kilometers do you have on your bike now? I know I had same kind of issues first 100 miles, that got progressively better.

 

[edufox]

How many kilometers do you have on your bike now? I know I had same kind of issues first 100 miles, that got progressively better.

Maybe about 200 km / 120 miles...

 

[amoslws]

I had a problem with the DQS, I know how kak it is when gearing down for the bend and it doesn't operate. Can be quite unsettling. Ruins the fun in bend.
I had to turn key off and the ecu rebooted but that was the only issue I had. It was registered at ducati. Never happened since.

 

[edufox]

I had a problem with the DQS, I know how kak it is when gearing down for the bend and it doesn't operate. Can be quite unsettling. Ruins the fun in bend.
I had to turn key off and the ecu rebooted but that was the only issue I had. It was registered at ducati. Never happened since.

So problem solved with a keyoff? Is a reboot the same? Not in my case then...

 

[Triple S]

Hum ok but I always shift up about at 4500 rpm and down at aprox the same or below rpms...
Thanks for the advice!

ok thought when you said braking you mean braking hard, for me down change during light braking and no braking just slowing for a bend dqs down works well.Only time once when dqs flashing on dash up/down would not shift until i turned off the ignition for 30 seconds. Maybe check DQS u/d on dash is flashing when your problem happens, if it is flashing the ecu detects a problem at that moment. I know this is not easy because you are not slowing as you wanted to so will be looking at the road not the dash.

 

[edufox]

Hum ok but I always shift up about at 4500 rpm and down at aprox the same or below rpms...
Thanks for the advice!

ok thought when you said braking you mean braking hard, for me down change during light braking and no braking just slowing for a bend dqs down works well.Only time once when dqs flashing on dash up/down would not shift until i turned off the ignition for 30 seconds. Maybe check DQS u/d on dash is flashing when your problem happens, if it is flashing the ecu detects a problem at that moment. I know this is not easy because you are not slowing as you wanted to so will be looking at the road not the dash.

Thanks TripleS! Yes, I mean both situations, smooth braking/no braking and hard front braking. The dash never shows the dqs u/d flashing, always steady and ok.

 

[amoslws]

You have a unique situation, judging by your responses. If you follow the booklet when they gave you the bike then I suggest you take it into the dealer so they can log it.

 

[edufox]

Hi everybody, I've just adjusted the gear lever to a longer position, turning the semi rod (the portion with no dqs sensor), and the problem is solved.100% of correct shifts, both down and up.
Thank you guys for the advices and ride safe!
L'sss

 

[Ed K]

Hi everybody, I've just adjusted the gear lever to a longer position, turning the semi rod (the portion with no dqs sensor), and the problem is solved.100% of correct shifts, both down and up.
Thank you guys for the advices and ride safe!
L'sss

Cool. How much did you adjust it to make it work?

 

[edufox]

Cool. How much did you adjust it to make it work?

Hi! Just about 2 turns and perfect. I also recommend to be firm with the lever when downshifting.

 

[Bigwaves1]

Two to three turns lowering the shifter seams to work in solving a the false neutral and DQS issues. I went down three turns and it works like magic.

 

[Rhino]

Hi! Just about 2 turns and perfect. I also recommend to be firm with the lever when downshifting.

I adjusted mine by 5 turns mainly to be in the correct position too the foot and it works perfect and find neutral easy now