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Still itching to install GP Shift, shorty levers and Rizoma top triple clamp...oh and a 45t rear sprocket.

https://www.italo-shop.com/Superspo...iple-clamp-with-22mm-mounts-risers::7982.html

The bike doesn't seem to have the power to pull stock gearing to the redline as it is, and I spend very little time in 6th gear on my local roads with the stock gearing. I'm hoping this will allow me to use 6th gear more, and also smooth out low speed 2nd gear riding.

It seems counterintuitive, but frequently, lowering stock gearing slightly can increase top speed on the track if you cannot increase power, and increase fuel economy on backroads. Now, if you ride on an autobahn your results will differ. :wink2:
 

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Still itching to install GP Shift, shorty levers and Rizoma top triple clamp...oh and a 45t rear sprocket.

https://www.italo-shop.com/Superspo...iple-clamp-with-22mm-mounts-risers::7982.html

The bike doesn't seem to have the power to pull stock gearing to the redline as it is, and I spend very little time in 6th gear on my local roads with the stock gearing. I'm hoping this will allow me to use 6th gear more, and also smooth out low speed 2nd gear riding.

It seems counterintuitive, but frequently, lowering stock gearing slightly can increase top speed on the track if you cannot increase power, and increase fuel economy on backroads. Now, if you ride on an autobahn your results will differ. :wink2:
Coincidentally I was looking at the same bars on the same site last night.

Why not install the rapid bike racing or evo then you can really put power where you want it in your rev range.
 

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More power is never a bad thing, and this bike could certainly use more punch on the track, but I find that it's more than adequate on the street. I manage to coax felony speeds out of a 50HP bike without too much trouble. :laugh:

...Why not install the rapid bike racing or evo then you can really put power where you want it in your rev range.
A couple of obstacles there:

I have put a $$$ constraint on what I will do to this bike, and they say it's not compatible w/my Mac systems anyway, so that may be a deal-breaker. Nor could I quite glean from their website what performance gains the RB system would yield on the Supersport in quantifiable terms.

Can you tell us exactly what measurable improvements you've experienced w/this software?
 

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Still itching to install...
...oh and a 45t rear sprocket.

...The bike doesn't seem to have the power to pull stock gearing to the redline as it is, and I spend very little time in 6th gear on my local roads with the stock gearing. I'm hoping this will allow me to use 6th gear more, and also smooth out low speed 2nd gear riding.

It seems counterintuitive, but frequently, lowering stock gearing slightly can increase top speed on the track if you cannot increase power, and increase fuel economy on backroads. Now, if you ride on an autobahn your results will differ. :wink2:
Factories gear their vehicles to the moon to achieve better test numbers, but the test profile may not replicate an individual's typical riding conditions. My idea of gearing choice on the street is to inexpensively match the bike's 'sweet spots' to my riding environment, optimizing acceleration, fuel economy, vibration (think mirrors) and minimizing drive-line lash at low speeds.

At the track last week my gearing was off just enough that in certain corners I felt I was either revving unnecessarily in a lower gear, or loafing in the next higher gear. Also, there was 1,000rpm left on the engine at terminal speed.

But TBH I wasn't riding the bike fast enough yet, and certainly there might be another 10mph in it. So, I'll ride the next trackday again after I set the suspension properly, and mount a set of track tires. Oh, and GP Shift was sorely missed...that will be resolved soon, too.

It'd be nice to see 150 on the dash next time. :smile2:
 

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Still itching to install GP Shift, shorty levers and Rizoma top triple clamp...oh and a 45t rear sprocket.

https://www.italo-shop.com/Superspo...iple-clamp-with-22mm-mounts-risers::7982.html

The bike doesn't seem to have the power to pull stock gearing to the redline as it is, and I spend very little time in 6th gear on my local roads with the stock gearing. I'm hoping this will allow me to use 6th gear more, and also smooth out low speed 2nd gear riding.

It seems counterintuitive, but frequently, lowering stock gearing slightly can increase top speed on the track if you cannot increase power, and increase fuel economy on backroads. Now, if you ride on an autobahn your results will differ. :wink2:
Hi,
You publish a photo of performancepart clamp with risers and talk about rizoma ?
What is exactly your future clamp ?

Personally, I'm waiting for fitting LSL clip ons for a sport position and confortable (+37mm rise and inclination bars 5°) and perhaps i change the clamp.
Performancepart.de offer a clamp for ducati st without risers for handlebar.
 

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More power is never a bad thing, and this bike could certainly use more punch on the track, but I find that it's more than adequate on the street. I manage to coax felony speeds out of a 50HP bike without too much trouble. :laugh:



A couple of obstacles there:

I have put a $$$ constraint on what I will do to this bike, and they say it's not compatible w/my Mac systems anyway, so that may be a deal-breaker. Nor could I quite glean from their website what performance gains the RB system would yield on the Supersport in quantifiable terms.

Can you tell us exactly what measurable improvements you've experienced w/this software?
Visit the thread ECU Mapping
 

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Hi,
You publish a photo of performancepart clamp with risers and talk about rizoma ?
What is exactly your future clamp ?

Personally, I'm waiting for fitting LSL clip ons for a sport position and confortable (+37mm rise and inclination bars 5°) and perhaps i change the clamp.
Performancepart.de offer a clamp for ducati st without risers for handlebar.
Here's a link to the part in question. Actually it does not say Rizoma for the clamp, but is 'compatible' with Rizoma bars. I believe the clamp is made in Germany:

https://www.italo-shop.com/Superspo...iple-clamp-with-22mm-mounts-risers::7982.html

I already have an LSL 'Superbike' bar on the ST2 and will use that bar on the Supersport with the clamp pictured below. Then I'll switch the ST2 back to stock bars, with risers.

Another vendor with possibly the same part:

https://www.performanceparts.de/en/...lamp-Streetfighter-DUCATI-939-SuperSport.html
 

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OK. Shorty levers: done. (Rizoma triple clamp supposed to ship from Germany tomorrow...fingers crossed!)

One down, two to go.
I order frequently from the italo shop, Artur is very helpful and reliable. If it's not on his site, he will still get it for you, he got me the front fairing at a good price , and i wouldn't have dance around my local dealer.
 

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Here's a link to the part in question. Actually it does not say Rizoma for the clamp, but is 'compatible' with Rizoma bars. I believe the clamp is made in Germany:

https://www.italo-shop.com/Superspo...iple-clamp-with-22mm-mounts-risers::7982.html

I already have an LSL 'Superbike' bar on the ST2 and will use that bar on the Supersport with the clamp pictured below. Then I'll switch the ST2 back to stock bars, with risers.

Another vendor with possibly the same part:

https://www.performanceparts.de/en/...lamp-Streetfighter-DUCATI-939-SuperSport.html
yeah they are finished off nicely too. They look pretty neat.
 

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i received clipons lsl which are nice but with size of 53mm . i did a mistake ! Our 939S need 57mm ,impossible to fit them, i 'll send back them to dealer.

PerformancePart.de offer clipons 57mm with several risers from 10mm to 40mm.
I sent them an email to know more about clamp and clipons.


I want to extend a little bit my position (handlebars after fork tubes), combine confort with small risers and sport position under protection of my 39cm dark ermax windscreen. I'm 1,75cm / 5,9"
 

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UPS says the Triple clamp arrived in Philadelphia early this morning, and was just by scanned customs officials. Should arrive here Monday p.m. Extremely eager to have at it. Too bad we're in the middle of selling our house, and delivering the RC51 to its new home all in the same week...may be a week before I can mount it. :mad:

But suddenly there's not a big rush to complete the touring setup, since avoiding homelessness (can always live with my bikes I suppose :grin2:) has taken precedence over the planned Canadian trip for now. On the bright side, the change in plans means that I'll be around to do a couple of Ducati trackdays in early September...come on shift lever! :smile2:
 

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UPS says the Triple clamp arrived in Philadelphia early this morning, and was just by scanned customs officials. Should arrive here Monday p.m. Extremely eager to have at it. Too bad we're in the middle of selling our house, and delivering the RC51 to its new home all in the same week...may be a week before I can mount it. :mad:

But suddenly there's not a big rush to complete the touring setup, since avoiding homelessness (can always live with my bikes I suppose :grin2:) has taken precedence over the planned Canadian trip for now. On the bright side, the change in plans means that I'll be around to do a couple of Ducati trackdays in early September...come on shift lever! :smile2:

Performancepart.de send me this photo after questions about their clamp and clipons .
 

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UPS says the Triple clamp arrived in Philadelphia early this morning, and was just by scanned customs officials. Should arrive here Monday p.m. Extremely eager to have at it. Too bad we're in the middle of selling our house, and delivering the RC51 to its new home all in the same week...may be a week before I can mount it. :mad:

But suddenly there's not a big rush to complete the touring setup, since avoiding homelessness (can always live with my bikes I suppose :grin2:) has taken precedence over the planned Canadian trip for now. On the bright side, the change in plans means that I'll be around to do a couple of Ducati trackdays in early September...come on shift lever! :smile2:
You might want to get out there, your winter will approach rapidly, hopefully as rapid as our spring /summer
 

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What are the concerns??
I asked them possibilities to have a nice clamp with clipons on.
They are able to create one for ss but with a surcharge , it's expensive 599€ clamp+clipons and risers. It 'd look like their monster 1200 model. (Previous photo is ss clamp with handlebar).

I think i'll just order silver risers+clipons.
 

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Triple Clamp in Hand

The Performance Part triple clamp ordered through Italo-Shop-Neuss arrived on schedule. Not charged VAT but shipping of 40 EUR to the US came to 370 EUR total w/o handlebar, as I have my own already. I stuck with traditional 7/8" (22mm) bar diameter to expand my choices. This light, nimble bike doesn't need those heavy duty motocross type bars on the ADV Touring bikes, or the 1" bars to muscle a Harley. :smile2:

https://www.italo-shop.com/Superspo...iple-clamp-with-22mm-mounts-risers::7982.html

The advantage to my mind of a conventional handlebar mount is to get away from non-adjustable clip-on type bars that have become so trendy on sport touring bikes that result in an expensive, and often frustrating, search for that one ideal set.

While racing clip-ons are great on the track, and high clip-ons are fine for sport riding and touring, they are optimal only for those individuals who happen to possess the physical measurements those bars were designed to meet. I find that conventional bars give a wide range of ergonomic options on the street to suit the rider and riding environment. Style does matter to me, but it is less important than comfort and control. I care more about how I feel riding the bike than how I look. :wink2:

So my Supersport will sport 'streetfighter' ergonomics on the street appropriately enough if I can find the time to actually install the parts. :(

The only problem I see with the new clamp is that there is not enough material to mount the stock clip-ons if I want to use them at the track. Not a big issue, as the triple clamp takes no more time to swap than the bars, and actually the controls and switches are the biggest part of the swap.
 

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The Performance Part triple clamp ordered through Italo-Shop-Neuss arrived on schedule. Not charged VAT but shipping of 40 EUR to the US came to 370 EUR total w/o handlebar, as I have my own already. I stuck with traditional 7/8" (22mm) bar diameter to expand my choices. This light, nimble bike doesn't need those heavy duty motocross type bars on the ADV Touring bikes, or the 1" bars to muscle a Harley. :smile2:

https://www.italo-shop.com/Superspo...iple-clamp-with-22mm-mounts-risers::7982.html

The advantage to my mind of a conventional handlebar mount is to get away from non-adjustable clip-on type bars that have become so trendy on sport touring bikes that result in an expensive, and often frustrating, search for that one ideal set.

While racing clip-ons are great on the track, and high clip-ons are fine for sport riding and touring, they are optimal only for those individuals who happen to possess the physical measurements those bars were designed to meet. I find that conventional bars give a wide range of ergonomic options on the street to suit the rider and riding environment. Style does matter to me, but it is less important than comfort and control. I care more about how I feel riding the bike than how I look. :wink2:

So my Supersport will sport 'streetfighter' ergonomics on the street appropriately enough if I can find the time to actually install the parts. :(

The only problem I see with the new clamp is that there is not enough material to mount the stock clip-ons if I want to use them at the track. Not a big issue, as the triple clamp takes no more time to swap than the bars, and actually the controls and switches are the biggest part of the swap.
Very nice !!
 

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Let me state for the record that I like the stock clip-ons very much for 90% of what this bike is designed for, but I have found that on long rides I need to make allowances for my personal "chassis" being somewhat out of alignment. Broken bones are a small price to pay for a lifetime of riding, but have turned me from 'Iron Butt' rider to 'Candy Ass'. :eek:

I've had little time to work on the bike this week, but did managed to swap triple clamps, and try out an old handlebar. The position is very comfortable and natural feeling, but a bit of finessing will be needed to accommodate the switches, bar ends etc. It is rideable right now, but I need generic bar-ends and I need to secure the switches and throttle housing more permanently. Also need to play with the switch positions, right now the switches just touch the fuel tank at full lock...not ideal.

Re-routed the clutch cable to avoid stretching it at full left steering stop, but that's not an ideal solution. I need to free up a bit more cable along its path, so I can run it back around the front of the fork leg.

The bars are only slightly wider than the clip-ons with 15-20º vertical range of adjustment. I couldn't superimpose the clip-ons over the bars vertically to show the 'pull-back', but there is just a little bit more pull-back: The biggest difference is the adjustability, which for me meant rotating the bars up to eliminate the droop in the clip-ons.
 

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