SSS is a great machine but.....(mild rant)

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PEDS DOC

Discussion Starter · Sep 17, 2017

I'm so happy to have my SSS back. It's awesome. I had a '17 and now I have the '18 no real difference, same buzzy mirrors and hard to find neutral and hot as ****. LOL Since I was 25 yrs old, I have only owned or ridden a Ducati. Monster 600 900 and 1200, 748, 999, Hyperstrada and now 2 SSS. (Maybe I'm the only guy in the world who has owned 2 SSS!). BUT, while I was waiting for my new bike to be set up I took a ride on a Triumph 675R. No buzzy mirrors. Not hot as **** and crisp neutral. It was like riding a limo compared to every Ducati I've owned. TOTALLY different experience. NOT BETTER, as I have really enjoyed ALL my Ducatis but I took my SSS out on an aggressive sport ride today and I was kinda annoyed about the mirrors and the heat. More annoyed than usual for me. LOL. The heat for me is a bit much and much worse than all of my other Ducatis except the 748. I am a diehard Ducati rider. But I guess what I'm trying to say is that we should always hold their asses to the fire because some things should be addressed from the factory. Some may say that since the SSS is a sportsbike then you should be wearing leathers and heat wouldn't matter and on a track mirrors don't matter. BUT they have marketed this bike as a sports bike for the street. I don't wear leathers on the street and I really like to see what's going on behind me. I have written my concerns to Ducati and since I have owned so many I am surely naive thinking that I would matter to a giant company like Ducati but I think we as a group may want to put together a letter to Ducati NA. Numbers mean a lot to companies. NOW with all that said. I had a great ride and nothing is like the grunt, style and sound of my red and gold sweetheart SSS. I just want these guys to f*****g get it together so my ass doesn't fry and I get rear ended because I can't see s**t behind me! VIVA DUCATI!

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rz33v4

· #2 · Sep 17, 2017

PEDS DOC said:
BUT, while I was waiting for my new bike to be set up I took a ride on a Triumph 675R. No buzzy mirrors. Not hot as **** and crisp neutral. It was like riding a limo compared to every Ducati I've owned. TOTALLY different experience. NOT BETTER, as I have really enjoyed ALL my Ducatis but I took my SSS out on an aggressive sport ride today and I was kinda annoyed about the mirrors and the heat.

I've ridden several 675 Triumphs. Nice machines, but they have their own issues - engine gear whine, a lack of wind protection and (to me) they are ugly compared to the Ducati SS. The details don't compare to the Italian bike. No motorcycle is perfect - not one.

PEDS DOC

Discussion Starter · #3 · Sep 17, 2017 (Edited)

rz33v4 said:
PEDS DOC said:

BUT, while I was waiting for my new bike to be set up I took a ride on a Triumph 675R. No buzzy mirrors. Not hot as **** and crisp neutral. It was like riding a limo compared to every Ducati I've owned. TOTALLY different experience. NOT BETTER, as I have really enjoyed ALL my Ducatis but I took my SSS out on an aggressive sport ride today and I was kinda annoyed about the mirrors and the heat.

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I've ridden several 675 Triumphs. Nice machines, but they have their own issues - engine gear whine, a lack of wind protection and (to me) they are ugly compared to the Ducati SS. The details don't compare to the Italian bike. No motorcycle is perfect - not one.

I totally agree. Not even a comparison but we should not just settle for some mediocre small things on a great machine just because we are diehard Ducatisti.

PEDS DOC

Discussion Starter · #4 · Sep 17, 2017

rz33v4 said:
PEDS DOC said:

BUT, while I was waiting for my new bike to be set up I took a ride on a Triumph 675R. No buzzy mirrors. Not hot as **** and crisp neutral. It was like riding a limo compared to every Ducati I've owned. TOTALLY different experience. NOT BETTER, as I have really enjoyed ALL my Ducatis but I took my SSS out on an aggressive sport ride today and I was kinda annoyed about the mirrors and the heat.

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I've ridden several 675 Triumphs. Nice machines, but they have their own issues - engine gear whine, a lack of wind protection and (to me) they are ugly compared to the Ducati SS. The details don't compare to the Italian bike. No motorcycle is perfect - not one.

PEDS DOC said:
rz33v4 said:

PEDS DOC said:

BUT, while I was waiting for my new bike to be set up I took a ride on a Triumph 675R. No buzzy mirrors. Not hot as **** and crisp neutral. It was like riding a limo compared to every Ducati I've owned. TOTALLY different experience. NOT BETTER, as I have really enjoyed ALL my Ducatis but I took my SSS out on an aggressive sport ride today and I was kinda annoyed about the mirrors and the heat.

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I've ridden several 675 Triumphs. Nice machines, but they have their own issues - engine gear whine, a lack of wind protection and (to me) they are ugly compared to the Ducati SS. The details don't compare to the Italian bike. No motorcycle is perfect - not one.

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I totally agree. Not even a comparison but we should not just settle for some mediocre small things on a great machine just because we are diehard Ducatisti.

BTW is there any mod out there to truly decrease the heat?

psyopper

· #5 · Sep 18, 2017

PEDS DOC said:
BTW is there any mod out there to truly decrease the heat?

Ride in "urban" mode.

se7en

· #6 · Sep 18, 2017

I've given up on trying to address some slight issues like the mirrors. I just looks past them and ride on. It's really the only option for us right now. This bike is truly awesome otherwise, though.

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Rhino

· #7 · Sep 18, 2017

psyopper said:
Ride in "urban" mode.

Would that work ? this bike seems to get hotter when going slow or riding through town. my thought was that the airflow cooled it down or dissipated any heat build up. although I am quite happy with the insulation I have fitted, I cant even say my bike is hot anymore.

stavros

· #8 · Sep 18, 2017

Ducati are very aware of the defective mirrors. When I was in Bologna on the Ducati Dream Tour I spoke to one of their chief test riders and he said they designed the perfect bike but forgot about one aspect, the mirrors.

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psyopper

· #9 · Sep 18, 2017

Rhino said:
Would that work ? this bike seems to get hotter when going slow or riding through town. my thought was that the airflow cooled it down or dissipated any heat build up. although I am quite happy with the insulation I have fitted, I cant even say my bike is hot anymore.

I mean, put the bike in "Urban" mode rather than Touring or Sport mode. Heat is a byproduct of power produced, reduce the power output and the heat byproduct will also go down. Assuming the bike is still set up for "Low" power in "Urban" mode, of course.

titus.sensei

· #10 · Sep 18, 2017

PEDS DOC said:
(Maybe I'm the only guy in the world who has owned 2 SSS!)

nope you're not.
My first SSS was stollen from me after 400km and 6 days.
waited 2 months to get its sister.

PEDS DOC

Discussion Starter · #11 · Sep 18, 2017

Rhino said:
Would that work ? this bike seems to get hotter when going slow or riding through town. my thought was that the airflow cooled it down or dissipated any heat build up. although I am quite happy with the insulation I have fitted, I cant even say my bike is hot anymore.

Hi brother, I have a favor, can you tell/show me in detail (pics would help) on what material you used and how exactly you installed your insulation? I would be forever in your debt!!!

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mike in o.c.

· #12 · Sep 19, 2017

To me the bike isn't radiating that much heat. Probably the same as my old Monster 1100EVO. To experience real heat, ride a Panigale. I couldn't ride my 959 without either leathers or neoprene sleeves on my thighs without getting 1st degree burns. Hopefully your SS isn't that bad.

Rhino

· #13 · Sep 19, 2017

PEDS DOC said:
Hi brother, I have a favor, can you tell/show me in detail (pics would help) on what material you used and how exactly you installed your insulation? I would be forever in your debt!!!

Yeah no problem I will put something together for you (photos) and in box you will probably be this weekend as the bike is at my workshop in town. I forgot how hot it got till l removed the insulation to run a cable and plug under the seat and went for a ride without it. With it in there is no heat unless I am standing still for a while then the heat just comes around the seat and into the left leg.

se7en

· #14 · Sep 19, 2017

mike in o.c. said:
To experience real heat, ride a Panigale. I couldn't ride my 959 without either leathers or neoprene sleeves on my thighs without getting 1st degree burns.

Lol...Awesome! >

steeve

· #15 · Sep 21, 2017

It is a great bike, the longer I have mine the more I love it. But the heat and mirror issues are unforgivable in this day and age.

DucColin

· #16 · Sep 21, 2017

steeve said:
It is a great bike, the longer I have mine the more I love it. But the heat and mirror issues are unforgivable in this day and age.

I mentioned the heat issue to my local dealer, his answer was "Ducati's do run hot":surprise:
I have to agree this shouldn't be a standard feature on any bike.

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Rhino

· #17 · Sep 21, 2017

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Hi @PEDD DOC this is how I made my heat shield (version 3) the general idea is to create a barrier between the exhaust and the seat and to deflect the heat away and out the back of the bike. You will need a sheet of card to make a template, a 800 x 600 piece of wool blend automotive underfelt (fire retardant) a sheet of fire wall heat shield / Deadna 1 use the card and make a template make sure it covers the whole area not leaving any gaps, make sure you go 50mm under the tank and along either side to the front of the bike, while the template is in place mark out the rubber stoppers, bars and anything that is sticking up 2 cut out all the marked areas as this will help transfer the markings onto the heat shield. 3 glue the underfelt and deadna together (the dead a has a sticky back which would suffice. I glued and then sewed around the finished product to neaten it up and keep it in shape when I remove and replace it) 4 transfer the the template to the heat shield (mark underneath) 5 cut the marked areas from underneath (the rubber stoppers will be cut out completely but everything else is only to reduce the thickness so the seat will fit back on) see the photos with the pencil indicating the areas that need to be thinned. Fit the heat shield and then the seat, it met be too thick and the seat may not lock in. Remove the seat and look for the impressions that the seat have made indicating where more under felt needs to be cut out. Then you should be done. No more heat while riding

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DucColin

· #18 · Sep 21, 2017

@Rhino, whilst I understand that this mod will keep the heat away from the seat, looking at your photos you have covered the eec. I know that not a lot of air can circulate under the seat normally but do you think you could be subjecting the eec to excessive heat and creating a problem further down the line.

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Rhino

· #19 · Sep 21, 2017

DucColin said:
@Rhino, whilst I understand that this mod will keep the heat away from the seat, looking at your photos you have covered the eec. I know that not a lot of air can circulate under the seat normally but do you think you could be subjecting the eec to excessive heat and creating a problem further down the line.

Good point Batman. I actual put some heat shield under the ECU blocking any heat access up ( not shown in photos) so it's getting less heat than if I had no heat shield at all under the seat. But your right I do wonder if the heat in general will afect the ECU if it does then everyone's in trouble. If not that's one tuff furkin black box possibly the most durable part of our bike>

DucColin

· #20 · Sep 21, 2017

Must stop calling the ECU an EEC, I'm in the aviation industry and the engine control module on an aircraft is an EEC.
I hope that Ducati have tested the box at the temps it is exposed to. Personally I haven't experience a hot arse, I only really notice the heat if I'm stuck at lights/traffic, then it seems to come from the sides mostly the right. But I am in the UK and we don't get the temperatures a lot of you get.

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