Take it...but only with a hefty discount and two years free maintenance. In the back of your head, though, is the fact that it probably wasn't broken-in properly as I'm sure the 6000 rpm rev limit was surely exceeded.
To Be or Not To Be
or to accept or not to accept demo bike with 180 mi
My bike has not come and the dealer does not know when she will come. The dealer offered me the sss-white demo bike which only has 180 miles. I said "yes" but now I am having second thought
Please help with your thoughts and advice, please
DA (aka sleepless in Virginia)
My bike has not come and the dealer does not know when she will come. The dealer offered me the sss-white demo bike which only has 180 miles. I said "yes" but now I am having second thought
Please help with your thoughts and advice, please
DA (aka sleepless in Virginia)
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thank you !!!Take it...but only with a hefty discount and two years free maintenance. In the back of your head, though, is the fact that it probably wasn't broken-in properly as I'm sure the 6000 rpm rev limit was surely exceeded.
I agree with this but would also ask for some type of extension to the warranty. Just like a CPO car, the dealer should back up what they are selling.Take it...but only with a hefty discount and two years free maintenance. In the back of your head, though, is the fact that it probably wasn't broken-in properly as I'm sure the 6000 rpm rev limit was surely exceeded.
Yes, this too. In fact, this plus the first maintenance free only...not two full years. That may be asking too much, now that I think about it.I agree with this but would also ask for some type of extension to the warranty. Just like a CPO car, the dealer should back up what they are selling.
I would think a couple grand off would be a sufficient discount.
I would try and get a definitive answer from the dealer about the probable delivery date of your ordered bike.
If it really is unknown then take a chance on the demo bike after riding it. It's unlikely that any test pilot really rode it ragged on public roads. Bear in mind that the first batch of Supersport S's were given to journalists at a race circuit in Spain, it's unlikely they were run in prior to this. There haven't been any mentions of engine problems on those days. You ought to be asking the dealer for some benefit in kind, only you can decide what form this takes to make you happy with the deal.
Good luck and I'd love to hear what you decide. Steve
If it really is unknown then take a chance on the demo bike after riding it. It's unlikely that any test pilot really rode it ragged on public roads. Bear in mind that the first batch of Supersport S's were given to journalists at a race circuit in Spain, it's unlikely they were run in prior to this. There haven't been any mentions of engine problems on those days. You ought to be asking the dealer for some benefit in kind, only you can decide what form this takes to make you happy with the deal.
Good luck and I'd love to hear what you decide. Steve
I bought the white supersport S demo bike from my dealer and I couldn't be happier with it. I bought it only with 100 mi, was absolutely flawless, and although I didn't get a significant discount, I did get $500 off msrp. How much are they willing to let it go for?
On the bright side, the fact that it has 180 mi. on it means 1/3 of the way through the break in period!
On the bright side, the fact that it has 180 mi. on it means 1/3 of the way through the break in period!
I would negotiate a discount equal to the upgraded full warranty ( I know in Canada it can be up to 4 years unlimited mileage, this might be third party) , this way the dealer knows he is still selling you a warranty and there is profit in it to offset the discount, your taken care of with a no deductible full coverage, you both win! Might be an easier pitch, you can also try for free first service to boot.
If you're the sort of person who gets a new bike every couple years, then go ahead, there's not much risk. If, OTOH, you're more like me and might keep it and ride it for 20 years or more, I'd hold out for the new delivery.
The bike is in deep demand, and they're doing you a favor by offering it before yours comes, so I doubt you'll get a huge discount; if you do as the others say and try that, they may well just say "OK, you can wait", and have an impression of you as a difficult customer.
PhilB
The bike is in deep demand, and they're doing you a favor by offering it before yours comes, so I doubt you'll get a huge discount; if you do as the others say and try that, they may well just say "OK, you can wait", and have an impression of you as a difficult customer.
PhilB
Check if Rev's are stored in the ECU memory. Question them on it.
95% agree to this. I wouldn't expect a huge discount either, but I think whether they see you as a difficult customer or not depends on how you ask for it. If you treat the dealer with respect and ask for a reasonable discount, I can see nothing wrong with that.If you're the sort of person who gets a new bike every couple years, then go ahead, there's not much risk. If, OTOH, you're more like me and might keep it and ride it for 20 years or more, I'd hold out for the new delivery.
The bike is in deep demand, and they're doing you a favor by offering it before yours comes, so I doubt you'll get a huge discount; if you do as the others say and try that, they may well just say "OK, you can wait", and have an impression of you as a difficult customer.
PhilB
My personal opinion: If you want to be the first rider of YOUR SS, then enjoy the anticipation and wait for YOUR bike to come. Otherwise, you'll always question yourself whether it would have been better to wait or not over the next few years ...
Well technically there will always be some miles on the bike, the dealer will ride it in/out shop possibly. Very rare for a bike to be sold with zero miles.If you want to be the first rider of YOUR SS, then enjoy the anticipation and wait for YOUR bike to come.
Mine had 3 miles / 5km's. I questioned it and allegedly the techie topped it up with petrol. The filling station is only 1/4 mile from the dealer.
I was told that after assembly at the dealer, the tech will take it for a quick spin to ensure reliability. This is for all units. I know that in another city, they had one briefly in stock and it had 8 miles on it...was not a demo. I was the first person to test drive my local dealers demo and it had 3 miles on it.Mine had 3 miles / 5km's. I questioned it and allegedly the techie topped it up with petrol. The filling station is only 1/4 mile from the dealer.
Take it. My dealer said that ducati makes them put 1000 miles on their demo bikes before they can sell them.. maybe thats bull? Or its only on their first demo bike?or to accept or not to accept demo bike with 180 mi
My bike has not come and the dealer does not know when she will come. The dealer offered me the sss-white demo bike which only has 180 miles. I said "yes" but now I am having second thought
Please help with your thoughts and advice, please
DA (aka sleepless in Virginia)
Thank you all the good advice.
It turns out my bike has arrived, it is currently being assemble and prep, and she will be delivered to me this Saturday.
Sooooo Happy !!!
It turns out my bike has arrived, it is currently being assemble and prep, and she will be delivered to me this Saturday.
Sooooo Happy !!!
I'd wait but here's food for thought.
This is what I've always thought, too...but I just can't get rid of that nagging thought about the break-in procedure in the manual. Its always in the back of my head...ugh! I broke the Hyper in correctly and I'll do the same for the SS-S, probably. I just wish it wasn't a full 1,553 miles! That can take a while for some of us as I don't put more than 3,000 miles a year on a bike, usually. That means the full break-in could last 6 months!I'd wait but here's food for thought.
Side note: funny typo I found in the manual while looking up the break-in: Pg 245 - "During the first 600 mi (1000 km) keep an eye on the rev counter, it should never exceed: 5,500÷6,000 rpm." They used a division symbol between the 5,500 and 6,000...lol. :nerd:
Although it is, as they say, less critical now than it was in the past, I still believe in doing a proper and careful break-in. However, I keep my bikes for the long term -- it's rare for me to change bikes before 80K miles, and my M900 has 260K miles on it, so it matters more to me than it would for someone who thinks 20K is a high-mileage bike.This is what I've always thought, too...but I just can't get rid of that nagging thought about the break-in procedure in the manual. Its always in the back of my head...ugh! I broke the Hyper in correctly and I'll do the same for the SS-S, probably. I just wish it wasn't a full 1,553 miles! That can take a while for some of us as I don't put more than 3,000 miles a year on a bike, usually. That means the full break-in could last 6 months!
Side note: funny typo I found in the manual while looking up the break-in: Pg 245 - "During the first 600 mi (1000 km) keep an eye on the rev counter, it should never exceed: 5,500÷6,000 rpm." They used a division symbol between the 5,500 and 6,000...lol. :nerd:
PhilB
Same here - regardless what "they" say, I stick with the carefull break-in. Have you ever seen how many metal splinter and - chips come out with the first oil change?
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