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Thank you for the prompt correction!

I've been waiting for this UpMap before purchasing the Termignoni exhaust. But I don't plan to install the exhaust until October.

I just wanted to clarify that the Termignoni mapping for the stock exhaust is not included in the price of the UpMap device.

If that's the case, I could for example use the gift code now for the stock mapping; but once I install the exhaust, I would need to purchase the Termignoni exhaust mapping.

Is that correct?

Hi Alley,


Yes that's correct. You can use the code TERMIGNONIGIFT on the app for the stock map. When your ready to install the termi exhaust, you can purchase the map seperately on the app.


Kind regards
Jay
 

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I am on the fence about purchasing the up map. I felt that installing the Termi pipe alone brought some huge improvements in mileage and in the nature of the engine. Now, I am not sure how the fuelling is right now, but the bike seems to run really well. It is smoother than with the stock exhaust and I can use lower rpms than I was able earlier. No jerkiness in the throttle what so ever and less vibration in the bike. I use 0.5-1 litres of fuel per 100kms, meaning I have also far better range than I used to.

Now, what are the benefits of the upmap for me?

Would I be sacrifing some of the benefits of the current setup?

I would like to get the fuelling match the improved flow, but now it seems alot like fixing something that isn't broken. Any input?
 

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I am on the fence about purchasing the up map. I felt that installing the Termi pipe alone brought some huge improvements in mileage and in the nature of the engine. Now, I am not sure how the fuelling is right now, but the bike seems to run really well. It is smoother than with the stock exhaust and I can use lower rpms than I was able earlier. No jerkiness in the throttle what so ever and less vibration in the bike. I use 0.5-1 litres of fuel per 100kms, meaning I have also far better range than I used to.

Now, what are the benefits of the upmap for me?

Would I be sacrifing some of the benefits of the current setup?

I would like to get the fuelling match the improved flow, but now it seems alot like fixing something that isn't broken. Any input?
You get the ability to disable the o2 sensors and get correct fueling through the entire range. Have to assume they developed a great map for their exhaust, For the money it’s well worth it relative to other options, IMHO.
 
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just installed the t800 and loaded the map for the termi (i have delkevic & akra)….

huge improvement in the throtle response , less jerkines in the low end and with partial throtle openings.

have to test on the track, but very happy with it
 

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I would like to get the fuelling match the improved flow, but now it seems alot like fixing something that isn't broken. Any input?
I'm with you and don't like fixing problems that don't exist.

But I think that since Termi makes both the exhaust and the fueling map, they would be very well matched. If I'm remembering correctly, when looking at the dyno comparison, the T800 upmap removes the torque dip around 4-5K. And of course there's the horsepower increase. But for me the most important criterion is linearity of throttle response. It's amazingly linear from the factory. So it's hard to believe it could get a lot better. My bottom line for me, though, is that if IF I add the Termignoni, I will definitely use the Upmap fueling that's designed for it. Heck, I might even add the Upmap fuel map just for the stock exhaust!
 

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That is pretty much spot on how I feel about it, but I am still on the fence about it. It could be something I do off-season, and the winter is very much coming now. I will see about it.
 

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Thought I'd mention that I've been running the Termi D181 on my SS for about 4 months now with no Upmap. Originally I left the baffle in but when I went in for the 600 mile service I had them pull the baffle. I didn't notice much difference really in either sound or performance and if anything- it seemed like the bike 'popped' a bit more with the baffle out (the little back-fire pops that Ducs do).

Well I'm picking up the bike tomorrow after installing the Upmap today. I'll let you know how it feels after I have some time to really put in some miles. And I'm still running it with no baffle.

The tech had done the Upmap on another bike and said it really makes a difference with how the fuel is delivered throughout the bands and that I should see a very recognizable difference.

We shall see.

Upmap or not- I highly recommend the exhaust- if for no other reason just the weight loss of the cat is enormous- and it sounds great.

If anyone else has done this Termi Upmap I'd love to hear what you think as far as before & after. Thanks
 

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Finally bought the UpMap and flashed the bike last week. Went for a ride today because it was 40F and just warm enough to ride.



First impression is that the power is much more linear. The small dead spot around like 4-6kish is gone. Low RPM putting around is smooth as well. Sometimes when using the Q/S up you get small pops from the exhaust, but that happened with the stock tune as well. The off throttle, coming to stop burbling is still present, which I'm happy about.



What concerned me though is after 40 miles the bike showed an average MPG of 34. Hopefully this is due to the cold and testing it out, but I had like 25 miles of freeway cruising in there. I typically see 42-44MPG on a tank. The fuel gauge was definitely dropping pretty quick compared to normal. I really hope that's just the bike running more rich at full throttle than on the stock tune. I'm okay with losing 2-3MPG, but not 6-8...
 

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I’ve got this installed and I’m not overly enthused.
You are saying you have both the exhaust and the UpMap installed? If only the exhaust I wouldn’t be surprised, but both together I would expect a very positive review.
 

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I'm with you and don't like fixing problems that don't exist.

But I think that since Termi makes both the exhaust and the fueling map, they would be very well matched. If I'm remembering correctly, when looking at the dyno comparison, the T800 upmap removes the torque dip around 4-5K. And of course there's the horsepower increase. But for me the most important criterion is linearity of throttle response. It's amazingly linear from the factory. So it's hard to believe it could get a lot better. My bottom line for me, though, is that if IF I add the Termignoni, I will definitely use the Upmap fueling that's designed for it. Heck, I might even add the Upmap fuel map just for the stock exhaust!

Having said that, I'm also considering the Rapid Bike products. The Evo, for example is adaptive and constantly adjusts the air to fuel ration based on engine data and atmospheric conditions as opposed to a static fuel map developed on another bike. It's pricey, though, with a more complex installation than the UpMap.
 

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I bought it and installed it. Mostly works great. The map disables the flapper. However, the software is glitchy but it will revert to the factory map if there is an issue and throw a CEL if you defeated the flapper motor. It’s cool to be able to flash from your phone. However it’s not the most intuitive ecu software I’ve used.
 

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I've ran the upmap with the Termi exhaust for the last year and have had no issues. It works great for me.
 
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