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Minimum Turning Radius?

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As the title implies, what is the minimum turning radius of the 950/950S? I would imagine they are roughly the same, but I've been unable to find this out. The reason I ask is I know what the minimum turning radius is on another bike (CB300R @ 7.5ft) and it can do high maneuvering turns like in this video:


I'm pretty sure the Supersport can't really do what that motorcycle did. But how close or far off would it be? The CB300R has a really short first gear, so I would imagine needing to do minimum radius turns on a much bigger bike would be the same case (first gear) but somewhere between 7.5ft and 20ft in turning radius, right?
 
#2 ·
There is nothjng listed in either the 939 or 950 manual.
No way on earth could the Superpsort match the turning radius of the CB300R. The wheel base of a CB300R is 1380mm. The Superpsort is 1478mm.
In addition you would be trapping your thumbs on the tank as the handlebars come too far back to the tank due to the steering lugs being way to close to the tank.
The Superpsort couldnt be ridden that slow either as it would be way too jerky on the throttle in first or second gear. It's a much heavier bike too whereas the CB300R can be flicked side to side so much easier.
 
#3 ·
Everything you said makes me love that CB300R for that reason. However, I will definitely not be doing moto gymkhana with the Supersport... but that still leads to the original question: what is the minimum turning radius? Is there any real way of finding out? Maybe we can write a letter to Ducati? XD
 
#5 ·
The turning circle of the SS if less than 1 foot. Place 1 foot on the ground lean the bike over, turn the handlebars full lock, turn your head and look 90' in the direction your going. move your weight forward and no weight on the seat. Then SEND IT.! 180' turn no problem. Practice and this can be followed by wheelie into the distance while the smoke clears.
 
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@Triplesapper you can go very slowly but it involves slipping clutch and using (ONLY) rear brake.
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Yes I know. What I was trying to say is the Superpsort couldnt be ridden at those sort of speeds that the CB300 is being ridden at. Our bike is no Moto Gymkhana steed 😅
 
#10 ·
He is certainly not on slicks 😅
I would struggle to remember the course
 
#11 ·
Okay, maybe using that video as an example was a bad idea... but I'm now getting a better idea of how not to use the Supersport. On the other hand, I hope to get to that level of maneuverability on the CB300R. That rider has got some amazing skill! (And psi at cigarette buying age)
 
#12 ·
Actually I could make small radius - by moving my body in the opposite way. I shuold come back home till Friday so maybe I could record myself. Weekend - my friend's wedding so probably I will be "unavailable" heh. With that, U turns are simple - just be brave and don't get stressed about pedestrians :p I'm following this thread hopefully to remember and make a video + measurement.
 
#13 ·
Definitely need a lighter bike for that type of work. With respect to Ducati's I think the new monster @366lbs dry would be better suited, and also the naked fairing/higher bars.
You could always walk over to the dealer and roll the bikes between two parked lanes to see the turning radius!
 
#14 ·
My estimation of the turning radius of my SS-S is somewhere smack in the middle between that of the CBR300R and my old air-cooled Supersport 1000DS. The latter sometimes requires a three-point turn just to perform a U-turn on two-lane blacktop. Of course, I could just plant a foot ahead of the peg, get off the seat, and SEND IT, but call me old-fashioned, I prefer to use bikes with high, flat handlebars for that technique rather than those fitted with clip-ons.
 
#15 ·
All what was said but look at the riding position. Closer to the 939SS vs a "true" sport bike, moderate low wide bars and moderate rear sets: leverage. But of course that bike weighs 200-ish -lb but still has a torquey (not peaky) motor.

jussayin'
 
#16 ·
So no consesus on the turning radius then? Of course it depends on skill and technique, which I don't have enough of with the SuperSport. Yet.

I did a skills course yesterday and barely managed an 8m u-turn. I used to turn my Scrambler in about 4m (2 carpark spaces). The police officer that was one of the coaches said I wasn't looking up and far enough around, like I was worried I would drop it. He was right.

So I will keep practicing.
 
#17 ·
I'm pretty sure the Supersport can't really do what that motorcycle did. But how close or far off would it be? The CB300R has a really short first gear, so I would imagine needing to do minimum radius turns on a much bigger bike would be the same case (first gear) but somewhere between 7.5ft and 20ft in turning radius, right?
The turning radius isn't really bound to the gear ratio. Aber I'm sure, a very skilled rider could achieve nearly the same radius by counterbalancing.
Ryan from Fortnine released a pretty good video on that matter last week. I think all that would be possible with the SS too, but I wouldn't advise to practice these techniques with the Duc as you most likely WILL touch ground a few times in the process.
 
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#18 ·
@Boe The Scrambler as you noticed, has a shorter wheelbase than the SuperSport, the seat height is lower, lighter, and the motor is also smoother than the 939 in many rpm ranges. Some of the things that make the Scrambler fun to ride at slow to moderate speeds.
 
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I've been practicing... LH u-turns are now under 3 carpark widths.
 
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