09-20/21-2025 Thunderhill West, Carters @the Track
Probably the last time this year I'll be on the Ducati. Bike was really hooked up all weekend and I felt really comfortable riding it, especially on Sunday riding in the A group with staff/instructors. There was another SS their but I never got the opportunity to talk with them as they were in the C group.
Saturday was CCW and Sunday CW, so it's almost like riding 2 tracks.
I was the quickest on Saturday in my group and Sunday in A group middle pack.
Will be heading to Laguna Seca in Oct. and plan to ride the BMW.
Instructor Patrick:

Instructor Sam:

Sunday CW, passing on the outside.

 

Headed to ThunderHill West 09-20/21 for the last weekend riding the Ducati this year. I'll post up my final Ducati Tack Days.
The final few Track days will be on the BMW, Laguna Seca and ThunderHill East.
Next year schedule still looking at riding with Carters.

 

Look’n great @Swamper!

 

09-08-2025 Sonoma, Carters @the Track:
Back at Sonoma for the last time this year. Rode the BMW again all 7 sessions. Really had a good day and felt very comfortable in all the turns. Worked on my braking zones trying to go deeper and brake harder. It paid off with some very quick lap times which where improving throughout the day. I was the quickest in my group every session.

 

08-27-2025 Sonoma, W/Z2-Yamaha Race Day
Forgot to post this earlier but I got a free day from a member on the S1000RR site. Condition was he couldn't attend and didn't want the ticket to go to waste. Rode the BMW all sessions in B+ group, was asked twice to move to A group but I declined. I wasn't feeling the speed on the BMW needed for A group. I was one of the quicker bikes in the B+ group however.
I didn't like there format with 4 groups as it gives you a hour between sessions and the tire cool off to much. So the first few laps every session I needed to warm the tires again. Sonoma is a fun track, took about two sessions to get reacquainted with brake markers and turn-in points.

 

08-30/31-2025 ThunderHill West W/Carters @ the Track
Rode the 950S both days every session. Bike set up is finally at it's best. I was very quick all weekend, Saturday was CCW and Sunday was CW. It's like two different tracks when going the opposite direction, CCW is the normal direction. There was another SS there in B- group, so I didn't ride with him. Talking with him in the paddock he had never seen a SS with all the modifications done to it for the track. His was completely stock and he wanted to know what comes first.
Saturday CCW:

Sunday CW:

 

08-2/3-2025 ThunderHill East, Caters @ the Track:
Rode the BMW mostly but did get the SS out for a few sessions. I'm finding on the longer track (3Mile) the 14T tops out down the straights. Set a couple new quicker lap times however with the 14t as it sure gets out of the corners better. It maybe my riding improvement as I set better lap times on the BMW too, quickest at the 2:07 lap time. End of the month will be on the West Track so will be using the Ducati both days, working on body positioning with a couple of coaches, I hope to get better weight distribution and less lean angle.
With one of the Coaches, Robson on his new S1000RR Turn 2

Fast laps on the BMW:

 

Yes, I have the Sato rear sets and have done a ton of mods to get the hard parts not to drag.

We use Metzeler TD slicks on all our track bikes including the SS.

 

Swamper, Are you able to drag knee on the SS? I ask because every time I've taken an SS to the track I drag foot pegs before I come anywhere near knee dragging angle. Since yours is dedicated to the track, what tires are you using?

 

07-19/20-2025, ThunderHill east, Carters @the Track:
Saturday rode the BMW, Sunday rode the SS 950S. Track conditions were very good both days although a lot of yellow and red flags cutting down the sessions. The last couple sessions late in the day were much less attended so got in some pretty nice lap times, quickest I've ever been on the Ducati, in the 2:11's. The Termignoni muffler scraped a few times at lean, not much else I can do about it. Came close to getting the BMW under the 2:00 lap, think in two weeks when we return I'll be able to do it, I also got around turn eight a little over 100mph, big achievement for me as I've been stuck at 99 for over a year. Working on my body position is starting to payoff. Dito took some pictures from new places on the track.

Muffler dragging:

 

It's the same compound as the slicks on the edge. You don't have to rough them up, that's just in your mind and you'll need to get over it. I've used them on the Supersport a year or so ago, you'll need to get them to at least 54 degree lean and beyond to be on their edge. I've always worn out the edge before anywhere else.
Q3's are NLA and their new Q5's are junk.
Metzler you listed would be best on the bigger bikes in my experience.
I'm running Metzler slicks on the Supersport and have finally gotten so I can keep up with the 400 in the corners and ride it like a small bike. I'm about 2 seconds quicker lap time than the really good guys on 400's.

 

It's the same compound as the slicks on the edge. You don't have to rough them up, that's just in your mind and you'll need to get over it. I've used them on the Supersport a year or so ago, you'll need to get them to at least 54 degree lean and beyond to be on their edge. I've always worn out the edge before anywhere else.
Q3's are NLA and their new Q5's are junk.
Metzler you listed would be best on the bigger bikes in my experience.
I'm running Metzler slicks on the Supersport and have finally gotten so I can keep up with the 400 in the corners and ride it like a small bike. I'm about 2 seconds quicker lap time than the really good guys on 400's.

Swamper, Thanks for the explanation. It's useful to know that the profile affects the wear lines on the edge. Last time out, I was nearing the limits of ground clearence and still had 1/4 of an inch (untouched) on the edge of the tire.
Dunlop and Metzler tires wore all the way to the edge at this lean angle. I guess it's time for rear suspension work or body position coaching or a hundred other things that make this track rat lifestyle all the more worth the effort.
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Pirelli's are the best on your list, stick with them.

 

Swamper,
Agreed. They are also a different profile that makes it a challenge to use all the tire. The slick area on the outer edge is very confidence inspiring but harder to roughen up all the way.

 

@Fitz Nice! I finally replaced the OEM tires. I'm sure they could go faster than I am able but I just didn't feel confident in their grip level. I was still running them all the way to the edge of the tire.

I put on a Metzler Racetec RR K3 on the rear and a M9RR on the front because I couldn't find a Racetec front anywhere in stock in the USA. Couldn't tell a difference and I had much more confidence. The taller profiles are nice as I'm not getting all the way to the edge of the tire yet.

 

Lopez0101
I've experimented for about 6 years with track day tires (for the Ninja 400). I search for tires that suit my style and ability. I'm an older track day rider and just in it for the fun and the craic as we say here. Slicks or full race tires and tire warmers would be a deficit in my case. The tires I've ran in the past that I'd run again are:

• Dunlop Q3
• Metzler M9RR
• Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SP V4

Currently I'm running the Supercorsa SP V4. In the dry, all tires on the list above perform above and beyond my capabilities. I do not ride in the rain or on wet tracks. I ride mostly in the Advance and sometimes thd Novice groups depending on attendees. At my home track (Mondello Park) the rider skill level cab be very high at times.

 

06-23-2025, Laguna Seca, Carters @ the Track
Been a few months since our last time at Laguna Seca. Weather turned out to be very nice this time with temp of 65-67, the day was mostly sunny after morning low clouds burned off. Took a couple morning session to get use to the Track and the speed and power of the BMW which I rode all day, didn't take the Supersport as it wouldn't be able to pass the sound requirement, 92db's. After dialing in the tire pressures we put down some of our best laps, by the end of the day I was consistently running in the 1:46's and 140mph down the front straight. My son was about 10 seconds quick than me in the 1:36's.

 

I had my first full-on wet track day last month. Not fun... just had Powercup IIs on my 848 and felt so slippy and I started worrying about losing the front. My lap times were slower than my first ever track day (which was on the SS) and it stopped feeling fun after I realised I had no idea what to do 🤣.

All's well that ends well. I enjoyed a few moments of the rear spinning up and wiggling out of a corner from too much throttle too soon for the wet, but stayed upright at least. And got a rainbow at the end of the day as 848 Eva and I loaded up to leave🌈. Tomorrow's track day should be dry, mostly.

The boring video, but another memory captured:

 

Nice to see your pictures posted, looking pretty quick. And yes those gloves are the same as mine, there great.

 

@Lopez0101 Nice shots!

 

This was May 2025 at NCBike in North Carolina. My first track day with the Ninja ZX-4RR I picked up for a small CC bike to have fun with on track. It's still on the OE GPR-300 tires but with an ECU tune and I put on braided lines. Also, the first time I've been able to get a knee down because this thing is MUCH lower to the pavement than my S3, lol. Makes me feel like I'm going fast!

Finally felt like my riding has gotten good enough to be worth buying the photos from the track photographer.

Also, really liking these RST gloves, especially for the price! I see you've got them too @Swamper

 

This was May 2025 at NCBike in North Carolina. My first track day with the Ninja ZX-4RR I picked up for a small CC bike to have fun with on track. It's still on the OE GPR-300 tires but with an ECU tune and I put on braided lines. Also, the first time I've been able to get a knee down because this thing is MUCH lower to the pavement than my S3, lol. Makes me feel like I'm going fast!

Finally felt like my riding has gotten good enough to be worth buying the photos from the track photographer.

Also, really liking these RST gloves, especially for the price! I see you've got them too @Swamper

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Great photos of you styling on the ZX! I am also a small bore track day rider. I have a 2020 race build Ninja 400 completely modded out for the track at $$$$. I'm also the happy owner of a 2024 ZX400RR. I've done a few track days on the ZX, but I'm still in the process of building it. Both are soo much fun on tracks with short straights and tight technical turns. I run at Mondello of Bishopscourt two weekends every month. Life is good to me.

 

06-08-2025 ThunderHill West (CW) Carters @the Track
Sunday same course but run Clockwise. I've only ran it this way a few times so the first few sessions were re-learning the Track as you want to just run it backwards in your brain but that doesn't work. By the third session I was more than comfortable with my brake markers and really stated getting quick. After a pow wow with Dave we worked on tire pressures and found the slide problem of Saturday to be to low of pressure in the rear. Didn't slide tell the very last session, rear tire was worn pretty good by then.
I have to say it's taken almost three years but I think I finally have the SS with all the changes to it performing as well as it can. Good I was faster than ever on the 950S although the bad thing is they asked me to start riding in A group in the future.
Sundays Pic's, 58 degrees lean now no problems dragging the cat with the Termi.

 

06-07-2025 ThunderHill West (CCW) Carters @ the Track
Saturday was Counter Clockwise on the 2 mile West side. I worked with Dave Moss all day on the suspension to dial it into the new lighter weight of the SuperSport and me weighing now at 165Lbs. Dave checked the pre-load first, took a little out. Then he adjusted both dampening settings. First few sessions I had the rear sliding out of the turns so Dave adjusted things to try to solve that. I kept sliding all day and Dave kept adjusting every session. End of the day we concluded I was riding it harder than I ever had and leaning 4-5 degrees further than before causing more sliding than I'm use to. Could also be the 14t change as this was the first time on the short track with it.
All in all I was the fastest I've ever been and out paced the fast 400 guys and kept up with all the fast 600 and V2's that were there. The V2's were just a little quicker down the straight but if I got the run out of the turn I'd kept even, I think this is were the 14T payed off having. Also the bike/rider being lighter helped.

 

05-19&20 ThunderHill East, Carters @the Track
Signed up for open Track time both Monday and Tuesday. Worked with Dave Moss on Monday getting the S1000RR dialed in better. He did a great job early in the day getting everything set to my liking, felt really comfortable finally. Tuesday rode the Ducati for a couple sessions and really like the 14T change however on the longer straights it's hitting the rev limiter in sixth. Might just use the SS on the shorter West Track. In two weeks will be on the West Track so I'll be using the SS. Hopefully I'll get the exhaust changed over by then. The Termi showed up yesterday from Italy, so I think I'm going to work on the change Memorial Day.

BMW @54 degree

 

04-28-2025 Sonoma, Carters @the Track
It's been over a year since we'd been on this Track. Took a couple sessions to figure out brake markers and sight objects to aim at. We took both BMW S1000RR, left the Ducati at home. Just before lunch I got fairly comfortable on the bike and it's speed around the course. After lunch break I rode with a couple of Carters staff instructors and we did some very fast laps. I'd never been under 2 minute here. The last session I did 10 laps consistently in the low 1:59's. I think I'll be a few seconds quicker when I get my rear sets figured out so the pegs don't drag/touch down, it's been an ongoing problem on the BMW this year. My son was in the 1:52's most of the afternoon.
I've made all my personal weight loss goals reaching 165Lbs. so I've rewarded myself by ordering the Termignoni exhaust and servo eliminator for my SuperSport. I'll hope to be riding it with the changes by next track day May 19-20 @ Thunderhill East. I'm estimating the bike will weigh in between 420to424lbs with fuel. I'll post a thread about the bikes weight and what I've done to get it there.
Passing on the outside, get's your adrenaline flowing.

Grip was good accelerating out of the turns on the repaved surface.

 

04-19&20-2025 Thunderhill East, Carters @ the Track
Finally some great weather, temp around 75 both days. Saturday rode the BMW and finally felt really comfortable for the first time on it, did some 2:10 lap times but it was really crowded with 55 guys on the track in my class. I had changed the foot-peg location which made a big difference in the feel of the bike.
Sunday I rode the SS. First time with the new Chain and the 14T on the 3 mile track. Took some time to figure out which gears to be in, much different than with the 15T. I found myself keeping it in 3rd more often than before when I shifting down to 2nd. After a few sessions I got the feel and I have to say the 14T seemed to be much better for accelerating out of the turns. I also found your in the gear selected a much shorter time and I was using 6th down the main straight. New chain made for smoother quick-shifting too.

Karl was extremely quick.

 

03-31-2025 Laguna Seca, Carters @ the Track
Rain was in the forcast so we took our S1000XR's with appropriate tires for the wet surface. First time I've ridden my XR on the Track. Rained most of the morning before sunrise but ended around sunrise. A lot of no-shows so the schedule was changed to two groups half hour sessions. Track dried out after the first session and the rain held off until 4:00. We both rode our XR's most all day with the exception of I took out my RR one session around lunch to check out the new foot pegs I had installed. Didn't have the Ducati as I'm waiting for the new Chain. The XR turned out to be a very fun bike to ride on the Track, however a lot of the guys didn't like being passed by an Adventure bike by Karl with his Lunch box on the rear.

 

Haven't had any problem with the camera mounting out here.